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Post by undineworker on Nov 20, 2006 8:32:22 GMT
I meditated last night after having two (enforced) nights off due to being full of the cold. I was very deeply in trance, when I felt myself go cold all over, tingle all over and I felt a strong presence. I couldnt see or hear anything, nor did I have any flashes of insight, or see any visions, as I sometimes do when I am meditating.
I was puzzled and asked for help. I asked for my guide to show me if there was anything there, but nothing came. I had surrounded myself in the protective white light so nothing bad could get in, but still, I did not feel as if the presence was bad. It simply made me feel icy cold, and tingle all over. I tried to ask for something to be shown to me, but when I opened my eyes there was nothing there. The feeling stayed with me for the rest of my meditation, but nothing was clear to me.
Later in the night I had a dream about two of the most powerful people in my past life, one male, David, and one female, Karen, and they were both very influential and I loved them very much. They were telling me that I could no longer look to them for help, and they were telling me that I must let them go and stand on my own two feet. I did not feel this was a symbolic dream, but direct. I had to make a decision in the dream as to whether to go with them, or stay with my husband and family....I felt torn, but I knew I had to stay. Then I realised when I woke up that I still had a strong emotional attachment to both of these people even though I have not seen them in years, they still have a hold on me emotionally, I could see that I had to let go. I prayed for guidance when I woke up, and I feel much clearer now.
Does anyone have any ideas about my cold experience? I feel there is not really a relationship between the dream and the experience, but maybe there is. I feel a little confused.
Love and Light
Lizzie xx
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Post by Leon on Nov 20, 2006 10:33:39 GMT
The presence of spirit is virtually always icy cold and tingly as you describe. The closer you allow them to you, the more you will get these sensations. If everything you do is in the name of god and you hold love in your heart you will never come to harm. God bless you lizzie www.thegodlight.co.uk |
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Post by sparklekaz on Nov 20, 2006 12:52:41 GMT
Dear Lizzie, It will be lovely to talk privately sometimes about personal things, it will be great to do that. I am fascinated by your experience Lizzie, u are a calm one..I would have been very unnerved it. But u were experienced enough not to be scared..as you felt no harm emanating from this encounter. You say, you asked mentally and out loud, who it was, or what it was..and you got nothing back. No impressions at all. Do you feel the dream about David and Karen, were connected to this experience. If so, in what way? If it is not too personal, you say these two people were very important to you at one time. In what way were they so important. What do they mean to you then, and what do they mean to you now. Maybe there is a hidden message there. You say, you had to make a choice between them, and your life now. So they obviously represent something, that was once, very, very important to you. We all need friends honey, family is important yes, totally, but we also need our pals, our soul mates on our journey. It is possible to have both. If we love someone, we wont them to be happy and balanced. Lots of love Karen  |
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Post by undineworker on Nov 20, 2006 20:17:17 GMT
Thank you both for your messages - you have made me feel very very humble. Leon, you are sweet and kind, and very helpful to me in these unusual experiences. If you have been through this kind of experience then you will know, and I know you have, just how it feels. I have never ever felt the coldness and tingling before, but I do know that spirit was near in some form. It was odd, but I think perhaps maybe I tried too hard again, if that makes sense, to understand what was happening, and pushed away the experience - it could have been more but was not. Perhaps I was not quite ready as I had had two days off meditating (my first two off for nearly 1 year now) due to being full of the cold and just wanting to sleep, and I felt that had I been continuous about my meditating it would have worked out differently. I feel I am on the brink of something very important - reality recedes sometimes and makes you realise spirit is all there is.
Karen you are an incredible person really - I do feel that I understand what you are saying. I have had sexual relationships with both these people in the past, David and Karen, and David was my first boyfriend, Karen my first girlfriend (we were young and foolish in each case - I am not offending anyone here I hope!). I am now happily married with two children but I did feel very much in the dream that they represented me being manipulated or dominated by a person/force/lover and this is what I had to choose - whether or not to continue allowing myself to be manipulated or choose freedom as in the freedom I have in my marriage - the freedom to love and be with my soulmate, my husband. He is all I ever wanted in life, since I met him over 16 years ago he has been my life, but the recurrence of both these important people in my dreams has always puzzled me and I dont understand how they can keep reappearing if I am not somehow "energizing" or "feeding" them in my emotions/mental state. I feel I am giving them some kind of life within me and I dont want to do this anymore - I wonder if you know, Leon, of a way I can "rid myself" of their presences, as I obviously feel there is stuff undone in my relationship with them. David left me, and so did Karen. Perhaps I feel there are unresolved matters there? I am very unsure how to proceed but in retrospect, I do feel the dream is unrelated to the meditation experience - what do you think?
Love and Light
Lizzie xx
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Post by sunflower on Nov 20, 2006 23:10:37 GMT
Lizzie,
Its sounds like a very interesting thing that happened to you, as long as this felt safe for you, I would welcome it. I have had spirit visit me in dream state, yet different than what you described. I'm not sure how you associate this presence with your past friends though. I understand the recurring dreams, my mom has recurring dreams with my dad in them(which they are no longer together) which we haven't seemed to be able to figure out why. Maybe some unresolved issues. Is there something in your life happening that may be causing them to show, to remind you of something? Just some thoughts!
love and light! jess
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Post by sparklekaz on Nov 21, 2006 0:07:50 GMT
Dear Lizzie,
Thank you for sharing something with us, that is so deeply personal to you. I feel that David & Karen is yin and yang in you. We are attracted to people for many reasons, and I believe that both of these people who u once loved so much represent different aspects of yourself.
I am trying hard to articulate what I am feeling with regard to this. So bear with me, if I come across a little stilted.
I sense a women of incredible passion and love of life, who is trying to be all things to everyone. When you owe it to yourself to be all things to you.
When something which is a fundamental part of us is disowned by us, it will come back to haunt us. Someone much cleverer then I wrote that. For me personally, that has been so significant. I would say to myself, what part of myself, am I disowning and of course, that forces me to look at everything. I am constantly analyzing myself, what makes me tick. Why do I do the things that I do. Why do certain things scare me, and other things that scare other people, I ignore and just do. I know, until, I pull out, all these things and hold them into the light, I will not move forward from where I am now..
As for your experience in meditation, I don't think for a minute, you pushed it away. I believe it was just simply the FIRST STEP. Someone told me once, that spirit, will only give us what we can cope with. Little bits at a time. From what u described, this intense coldness and tingling, it sounded a little overwhelming. Maybe for a while, this is an experience that will repeat itself many times, until, they feel you are ready for the next step. Just be patient and wait and see.
I feel so excited for you, you are on the brink of something so wonderful for you. I am so thrilled to be able to share it with you from the beginning, as I am sure others who read, what is becoming a development diary for you.
A simple word of warning and I am sure you are already aware of this, but be careful about meditating, when you are unwell, or have recently been unwell.
Lots of love
Karen
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Post by Leon on Nov 21, 2006 0:15:00 GMT
I agree when you are unwell you should keep any mediations simple. Do a plain relaxation meditation instead. Do not go looking for spirit or any enlightening beings. As when you are in a poor state of mind negative beaings or negative influences even of your own mind can take over. Instead just play some gentle music, take a bath and keep it simple. If you push too hard you will burn yourself out. You need to keep your mind fresh and most of all, keep it simple, as all healing, meditation and mediumship is a natural gift and should not be pushed, it should come naturally. www.thegodlight.co.uk |
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Post by undineworker on Nov 21, 2006 7:07:41 GMT
What can I say? You two are so good to me. I loved what you said Karen, that is so poignant, so valuable to me. You truly are a healer, and anyone who comes into contact with you must feel your goodness and compassion emanating from you - it reaches out to me even over the internet! I do so agree with you about different aspects of myself. I am very reluctant to accept some of the things in my character I do not like, but on the journey of the spirit you are forced to face things which would drag you down in order to solve the dilemma and move on, I do agree with you there.
About being ill, yes, I am still unwell, but it is just a cold and I understand about meditating when I am unwell because I did it last night even though I just wanted to sleep and actually started to feel the tingling again, then I fell asleep! no good, that!
Thanks also Jess for sharing with me, you have some good useful thoughts especially about recurring dreams, they are a valuable tool and make you forced to look at things which are unresolved in your life. I feel that you have to face certain things to do with your dad (or rather your mum has, as you say it is she who has the dream) and deal with them before you can move on in your life.
Love and Light to you
Lizzie xx
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Post by zanna on Nov 24, 2006 19:57:59 GMT
Hi Lizzie.
How do you get into a trance? Sometimes I go really relaxed and feel something but other times I just can't even relax, (HELP!). I did meet my guide once in a dream "White Feather" he gave me a pouch of coloured stones tiny little things they were, don't understand what they meant though. Still that will come in time of that Im sure. But why can't I always meditate?xxx
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Post by undineworker on Nov 24, 2006 20:34:47 GMT
My dear Zanna, it has taken me over a year to get anywhere near being in an "altered state" and the first time it happened to me, I didnt know what it was, and panicked and it went away!! lol. It happens naturally when you have disciplined yourself to meditate regularly, but as it has been pointed out on the board already, you cannot successfully meditate if you are in a poor state of health, have been ill recently or are very tired (you will just fall asleep) you must only try to meditate when you are ready, and fresh. Everyone has their own method, but you must read more on the subject and try to find the way that suits you best. Here is what I do....
I sit comfortably in the nearest I can get to the lotus position (lying down often makes you just go to sleep!) and I straighten my back. I close my eyes and breathe very deeply in through my nose and out through my mouth quietly saying to myself Positivity In, Negativity Out....then I surround myself with white light to protect me, and then I simply clear my mind...trying to keep it clear, and see what comes. Sometimes images or visions come right away, and at other times it takes much longer, or there is nothing at all. You can sometimes ask for help from your guide.
The coloured stones your guide gave you seem to represent your chakras - you can, I believe, buy what is known as a chakra pouch and this has different stones in it to represent the different chakras in the body and helps with the opening and clearing of the energies in your body so you have an easier time meditating. I hope this helps.
Love and Light
Lizzie xx
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Post by zanna on Nov 25, 2006 10:05:07 GMT
Bless you Lizzie, many thanks.xxx
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Post by zanna on Nov 25, 2006 18:26:52 GMT
Hi again, well it's errm 6.25pm and my hubby's at work my baby girl is at a sleep over so it's me, my boy who's on his guitar and my little dog. So quiet!!!
Anyway I wanted to tell you all about this and what your thoughts are.
Last night I was talking to hubby about orb's and just as we were chatting I felt a strong presence with me & I saw something white shoot across in front of me, I wasn't scared but what do you all think? Love & light,xxx
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Post by undineworker on Nov 25, 2006 20:08:53 GMT
Yes, orbs are amazing, we do cctv at work, and have actually captured some of them on film. If you are open to them you can see them - isn't this incredible, though, zanna, that you should post just this now - I saw orbs in a meditation this morning, as I was awakening, and I had never seen them before either...........spooky or what?? lol. I do think that the strong presence could be because you are opening yourself more to spiritual experiences, and your guide is trying to answer your questions. As I said before about being open to answers, you really can get replies in unusual ways.
My orbs seem to have been very white on a black background i.e. my eyes were closed at the time...I think in a way these are energies which are around us all the time, and we often quite accidentally tune into them when our brainwaves are at the right frequency - do you ever get a high pitched tuning fork kind of noise in one of your ears? Its like a radio signal sound - I have been told this is spirit trying to communicate but their vibration is higher than ours so they have to slow down their communications to get through to us....perhaps that is why your orbs were so fast, they couldnt slow down enough for you to actually see anything concrete so to speak. As for being scared, well, why would you be - you have the right openminded attitude and are asking to be helped, you have nothing to fear, but do remember in meditation and relaxation to protect yourself with white light, or you might get a little more than you bargained for!
Love and Light
Lizzie xx
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Post by zanna on Nov 26, 2006 9:11:21 GMT
Morning Lizzie. Thanks for that reply. When you talk about ringing on the ear I have that all the time day & night, even now while Iam chatting here it's happenig. If that is so do you think thats why Im still getting headaches? i di ask the angels and my guides for protection morning & when I go to sleep. What do you think? Love&light,xxx
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Post by undineworker on Nov 27, 2006 8:26:07 GMT
zanna, hi, the ringing in your ears might well be tinnitus!! My boss suffers from that and describes a constant ringing as well as headaches...get the doctor to check you out.
If not, however, it may be spirit trying to communicate with you. One thing spirit is, is much faster vibratory rates than people, so that they have to slow down their communications for us to understand, as I think I already mentioned. It is important that you understand that the speed they go at could burn you out if you are not careful, which is why you have to have a measure of control over what is coming to you by protecting yourself with white light while meditating.
Love and Light
Lizzie xx
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Post by zanna on Nov 27, 2006 11:37:52 GMT
Hi Lizie,
Thanks for your reply. I have seen the Dr about my headaches & he checked my ear's too (actually Ive seen 3/4 Dr's about my headaches) neither can find anyting wrong.
But there is something that I'd like some help with (if that's Ok) I want to clear all the past pain from my heart, I thought I'd forgiven those that have hurt me, and I know that I have with some, and these have "really" hurt me, but then there are somethings that others have done & I can't seem to let it go.
It's weighing heavy on my heart I know it is, I have asked the angels and even the Masters but how can they help if there's a huge brick wall there? What can I do to knock it down so the divine beings can help?
any idea's???
Thanks sweetie
God Bless,xxx
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Post by undineworker on Nov 27, 2006 19:58:16 GMT
Hi sweetie,
take care of yourself first. The way I managed to forgive my alcoholic mother who badly abused me was like this. Imagine you are the adult and she is the child (or he) you are older, wiser, and kinder than they are. They are an errant child who has gone wrong and has been bad, and you are being a kindly understanding mother who is forgiving them and giving them a cuddle and telling them that they are forgiven. This is much easier than it sounds...if you are a mother yourself, you can well imagine that you do not begin to hate and despise your children when they are naughty otherwise you would be a really bad mother. I tried this with my mother, and I feel for the first time every I have actually let go of the nasty legacy she left within me. It works, try it!
Hope that helps
Love and Light
Lizzie x
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Post by undineworker on Nov 27, 2006 19:59:43 GMT
oops, sorry, brick wall........forgot that bit.........lol
To knock down a brick wall, you do not use force, but something which will slowly dissolve it...love compassion and caring. Open your heart to love and gratitude. Be grateful for being alive, and be thankful for it. Learn to show compassion and be thankful and you will find that there is no room for hate in your heart. There isnt in mine.
Love and Light
Lizzie xx
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Post by zanna on Nov 27, 2006 20:11:45 GMT
Ah bless ya Lizzie, thanks.xxx
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Post by zanna on Nov 27, 2006 20:36:02 GMT
Hi Lizzie. Is there such thing a absent reiki healing? and is reiki more powerful than hands on healing or absent healing? Im a little  thanks, love & light.xxx |
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Post by undineworker on Nov 28, 2006 8:03:39 GMT
dear Zanna, I am feeling a little down myself today but there are two reiki practitioners here on the board, leon and kaz. Do ask them. I dont do reiki myself.
Love and Light
Lizzie xx
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Post by zanna on Nov 28, 2006 8:15:31 GMT
Ah bless, tell ya what I'll pick you out a healing cards for you. Not for clairvoyance but just a little lift.xxx
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Post by angelight on Dec 13, 2006 20:46:49 GMT
Hi Lizzie,
I just read your method of forgiving people who have badly hurt you. I thought it was an excellent way of dealing with it. I suppose I do the same sort of thing, but the way you explained it was really beautiful, if thats the word i'm looking for!
I just felt compelled to tell you, i'm sure that piece of advice will help many people who read it.
Love Kelly x p.s I don't have room for hate in my heart either. It doesn't damage the thing it is directed at, it only damages those who send it out. (tho it's not exactly easy all of the time!) xx
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Post by undineworker on Dec 14, 2006 7:24:18 GMT
Hi Kelly, thank you for sharing. I am glad it has helped you and helps others. I hope I can always share and help here. That is why I am here!
I agree with you totally about hate only hurting the person who feels it....it makes you miserable and eats away at your insides...there is no room to be good, only smallminded and nasty.
love and light
Lizzie xx
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thanks, love & light.xxx
