It's not always the brain, my dear Dr.

[donq]

Just read this and would like to share it here:

[from "The Spiritual Anatomy of Emotion: How Feelings Link the Brain, the Body, and the Sixth Sense" (2009)
by Michael A. Jawer and Marc S. Micozzi]

In 2002, I attended a lecture at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C., by the eminent neuroscientist Rodolfo Llinas. His was an outstanding presentation. He made his theories, assumptions, and research accessible to a lay audience by stating them clearly, understatedly, and with a touch of humor. Throughout, Llinas’s focus was on the brain: how various perceptions, misperceptions, and aberrations come about and how they might, someday, be corrected. Discussion of this kind was exactly why people had come to hear him.
Nonetheless, during the question-and-answer session, a woman, perhaps seventy years old (and quite unlikely to be taken for a neuroscientist in training) asked, “Dr. Llinas, do you ever have to go to the bathroom? Get the call of nature in the middle of a presentation like this one?”
Now, this was, shall we say, a bit off the wall. Llinas, not the least bit thrown, responded, “Sure, sometimes.”

“Then,” the lady responded, “you know that it’s not always the brain that does the signaling.”

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P.S. I (DonQ) have been a (spiritual) practicer/researcher for almost 40 years. I'm not afraid to talk to (or share my idea with) any psychologist or neuroscientist etc. But honestly, that kind of a lady really scare me.

[gruntal]

In recent times it was sort of warned girls and boys have different hormones and didn't experience life exactly the same. And that is was unfair to expect the sexes to automatically react the same. Of course I don't know from personal experience because I don't recall ever being a girl ever before.

[donq]

Hi George,

You were talking about girls and boys' hormones remind me of this:

Recently, just for killing my time, I posted (in my first language) some posts on a forum in my country. I haven't been there, nor read any of them, for almost 20 years now. It has really changed a lot. Most members nowadays are just teenagers or even younger. I helped them translate something they asked for. And it surprised me that after I cooked for them, I also had to chews for them (very long explanation why I translated it like this and like that). Worse than that, after my cooking, chewing, it seemed they still needed me to eat for them? It was not like this before.
Don't get me wrong, I was not upset. I just quit but still so worry for them.
Does something like this happen there? Why do these young people change a lot?

Their hormones really have changed that much?

Take care,
monty

[gruntal]

I don't think the hormones have changed although the use of modern medicines may have an impact. Here in the U.S.A. boys and girls intermingle more freely; age groups may form sub-cultures and have less loyalty for father-son or mother-daughter relationships. But experience suggests deep down girls like to be cuddled and boys feel more secure when they are in charge. Ideally this is a partnership like the original shaman or spiritual efforts: the girls were sensitive and obtained enlightenment but the boys did the administrative work unemotionally. But alas it became a business and the men ran everything and the girls were told to shut up. 1 Corinthians 14:34 . Of course everyone has a male and feminine side. I remember speaking to an Ascended Master via channeling that temporarily switched over to it's girl mode. I felt suffocated ! The same message was drowning me in sentimentality !

[donq]

Hi George,

Out of my curiosity I did some search (Corinthians 14:34) and had to "Whoa!"

Here, the girls seem to be more aggressive. In the old days, I only saw a boy quarreled with another boy on the forum; nowadays, sometimes three girls scrummed just one boy who didn't seem to want to fight back.

Another question, then, if you don't mind.

What is the best way to correct something on the forum? Let me give an example: someone posted a bad (very incorrect) post. I know if some posts are that bad, why waste our time and effort trying to correct it, right? Besides, every has his/her right to write whatever they believe.

The problem is what if someone else come to read it later? They would get a very bad idea or so wrong information back with them, wouldn't' t they? Because they didn't see other posts saying something else.

However, I also know that correcting someone on any (public) forum, will hurt their feelings (losing face), more or less, for sure. All of them mean well, or they won't bother giving their time and effort to write and post something in the first place.

But if those posts really needed to be corrected as I've just mentioned above (here, I don't mean the case of those with the big ego who always enjoy finding fault with everyone), for the benefit of anyone who might come to read it later, what other posters should do? (sure, in the real world, it's another story).

I know that indirect suggestion is very useful. But if that indirect suggestion is good, too good, they (those who posted the incorrect posts) will never get the real message. And it that indirect suggestion is not good enough, it turns out to be sarcasm.

I don't recall anyone wants to quarrel with you as our indirect suggestion never become sarcasm.

The question remains (the dilemma of Hamlet): To correct or not to correct?
Any thought?

[gruntal]

Alas not all posts here are honest or sincere. But there is no moderator. When I was chat room moderator for example I had to kick out some Jehovah Witness using this site to promote their own church. But then now it is all in the past but the former owner of the site had no reservations of removing anybody for any reason. Period.

I remember in the early days of computing and the BBS thingies that proceeded the Internet. I stumbled on Butch's Board, found it was gay; decided I had nothing in common with them. I heard later the Straights took it over! What nerve ! Another site hosted by someone in Switzerland - I think it was Spirit Web - seemingly was ruined by the chatters endless arguing with each other.

Which begs the question why in the New Age isn't the Internet used much if any to disseminate thoughts and discoveries amongst the "enlightened" ? Because even now as the Rosicucians have long lamented the secrets of the ages are not appreciated by the masses.

Mathew 7:6 ...

[hera]

Perhaps it's just semantics Monty but 'correction' is the same as disagreeing and isn't that the whole point of forums - discussion and listening and hopefully learning.

[gruntal]

Awhile back Karen did a post on Islam that she researched before she wrote it. She also researched and wrote posts on Jews and Native Americans. She is very much British! An authentic Moslem challenged her ability to post anything about that religion since the final authority would be the Koran and nothing but the Koran. So again the site was steered towards religious propaganda by one instead of being an open forum for the all.

I have quit so many spiritual things because of dogma and political correctness. Again what I have observed ( via channeling ) from Ascended Masters: They never tell you what you are not ready to hear or anything derogatory. That is the test it is coming "from up stairs".

From mortals you just take a chance they are speaking from their higher selves and not trying to tear you down ...

[donq]

Hi Hera,
Yes, agree. And I like that. "Correction" is the same as disagreeing. Good one!
Hope you are fine.
monty

Hi George,
Thanks for telling me this, George. I have never known about that before because I never read nor post on those thread as somehow I know it's a very very sensitive stuff. Poor Karen, she had to read and take care of every thread on the whole forum because she was a moderator. That was a very very hard work. (Don't you say, Karen?)
"...never tell you what you are not ready to hear or anything derogatory." hmm...I took time to absorb this sentence. Yes, it's very deep.

P.S. Have to run an errand. Will come back to Robert's thread later.