The Topic of Death

[cyberangel]

Hi everyone

After chatting on another thread, the subject of death came up and I thought it would be interesting to start a topic on it after all it is a part of life, so why not!

First of all I’d like to ask...How do you see death? Do you see it as an end or a beginning? Do you believe there is “life” after death? ...what do you imagine the afterlife to be like?

And if you don’t believe in life after death, how does that make you feel? What is your vision of death if you have one?
We have all lost loved ones, some sudden, some slowly and some tragically. What is your experience the death of others? How would you, yourself like to die? I know some may view this topic as morbid, but as I said above it’s also a part of life, so why shouldn’t we discuss it.

Feel free to add questions you may have. I think it may be interesting, especially to those who may fear death. When you discus it, it may alleviate any fears associated with it.

I look forward to hearing your opinions on it and sharing my thoughts on it also.
One thing is certain in this life we all will face death at some stage.

Love and Light
cyberAngel

[hera]

Glad you started this thread cyberangel, i'm totally in agreement that death is a natural part of life and not something to be feared, although the process itself may often be unpleasant, the result is something I anticipate with great interest.

I have total certainty that we will all move on to something other than what we know now and possibly be reunited with others who have gone before us...........or possibly not if they have already taken on another human form?
Whichever it is, the point I make is that this is just one of many trips we all make as part of the learning process we need to be finally freed of many, many incarnations, and I do believe that we often reincarnate with the same souls with whom we have some karma to work out.

One question I have and i'd be glad to hear others' thoughts is how and why are there so many souls (and the number is growing) here on our planet at this time. Where have they all been throughout history? Is there another place, parallel universe, where we have been acting out our stories, learning our lessons I wonder?

I'm rambling, suffice to say that I know in my bones that life goes on after we leave these frail bodies behind and i'm looking forward to seeing what it bring, I just hope i've learned whichever lesson i'm supposed to this time around so I don't have to do it again

[donq]

(warning-it's a bit long post)

Dear Lorraine,

First of all, let me apologize in advance; I know that my talking here might not please to hear. It's just that this is a friend talking to a friend. Cyberangel and I kind of so close. In other words, I know she will forgive me for my personal weird view.

How do I see death? I see it's an end of my life story. You (I mean you, anyone who's reading this, not Cyberangel) might ask, how do I have anything to do with spirituality if I don't believe in “life" after death in one way or another (in whatever forms: worldly incarnation, (consciousness) ascension, or just pure soul ascension etc.)? My answer is I honestly don't know. Most (if not all) of everyone I know in my life, whether they know anything about spirituality or not, believe in incarnation in one way or another. Strange?

Let me give you an example:
While I was living in the forest (temple) on my spiritual practice, I knew this family. A wife who went to work so hard on the field (ground digging etc.) all day, just to get very little payment to buy food for her children. A husband who did nothing all day except waiting for his wife came home so that he could snatch the money from her and went to buy a drink. When I asked the wife why she let him do that, she honestly told me (she knew I was a spiritual person who lived with the monks) that she tried to do the good things all the time, no matter what, so that, at least, her life would be better in the next life (she believed in worldly incarnation). As for the husband, he told me he didn't know what to do in this life except drinking. His life was so bad and he just lived day by day. He just hoped it would be better after he reborn again to the next life.

My point is why those two totally different persons believe in the same thing?

Again, back to how I see death, I see it's an end of life story. Don't get me wrong, this doesn't affect anything on my spiritual practice. Trying to do only good things, avoid doing bad things, and trying to pure your mind (yes, this three things are the core of Buddhism). If there's the next life, it's okay for me; if there is not, it's still okay. I feel that believing in doing good things is more than enough. It gives me strength to do them more and more. No matter how bad it seemed to turn out at first, but finally the goodness itself will show me the way out. Always. And that has nothing to do with my next life, but only this life, here and now. When the end comes, I will be able to tell myself that, I already fought the good fight, for the good.


Let me quote this:

Dear lord,

Thank you for giving me strength and conviction to complete the task you entrusted to me.

Thank you for guiding me straight and true through the many obstacles in my path.
And for keeping me resolute when all around seemed lost.
Thank you for your protection and for your many signs along the way.
Thank you for the good that I may have done.
I am so sorry about the bad.
Thank you for the friend I made.
Please watch over her as you watched over me.
Thank you for finally allowing me to rest.
I am so very tired.
But I go now to my rest at peace…
…knowing that I have done right with my time on this earth.
I fought the good fight.
I finished the race.

I kept the faith.

-from “The Book of Eli”, the movie.

You asked:

And if you don’t believe in life after death, how does that make you feel? What is your vision of death if you have one?

I kind of believe in something like this: if I died right now, down here, and there was a plant growing up from this very spot after that, I believe there's some connections. However, it seems too complicated to explain the connections. The easier version might be, I became its fertilizer?

P.S. However, if there's a next life, I hope it will be like this:

I suddenly, quite without noticing how, found myself on this other earth, in the bright light of a sunny day, fair as paradise. I believe I was standing on one of the islands that make up on our globe the Greek archipelago, or on the coast of the mainland facing that archipelago. Oh, everything was exactly as it is with us, only everything seemed to have a festive radiance, the splendor of some great, holy triumph attained at last. The caressing sea, green as emerald, splashed softly upon the shore and kissed it with manifest, almost conscious love. The tall, lovely trees stood in all the glory of their blossom, and their innumerable leaves greeted me, I am certain, with their soft, caressing rustle and seemed to articulate words of love. The grass glowed with bright and fragrant flowers. Birds were flying in flocks in the air, and perched fearlessly on my shoulders and arms and joyfully struck me with their darling, fluttering wings...

-The Dream of a Ridiculous Man (1877) by Fyodor Dostoevsky

[mojomojo]

I have had experiences all my life, that have shown me, there is without doubt, that which we call spirit, which have lived as people on this earth, but unless those experiences spill over into this reality in some form, it may all be just in our head, or lingering thought patterns we pick up on.
This may be proved by receiving messages from someone who has passed, about someone who is still alive, or about something of importance to that person, that is specific to the present.
This is performed by genuine psychics all the time and I emphasize genuine, unless you have experienced this for yourself, why should you believe it, why should you believe in an after life, without proof its just wishful thinking or a coping mechanism.
What the after life is like, we can never know, descriptions from spirit is just that, we can not even be sure of the source and have nothing to judge the descriptions against.
People have a habit of accepting as truth, that which reinforces their ideals without proof.
Do I believe in life after death, yes, but what that entails, I have no idea, I have never found it a source of comfort, as the body still has to go through death, but then again we have no idea until we experience it.

[hera]

This is possibly irrelevant but I wanted to throw it in here anyway........

When my dear father was on his death bed 15 years ago he was seemingly already moving in and out of his body, as he told us during one of his brief moments of consciousness that he had just been to see my son, his beloved grandson, who he'd had an argument with 2 years previously so not seen nor spoken to through that period. He described how my son's appearance had changed and what he was doing when he saw him, which was confirmed afterwards when I told him what his grandfather had said.

Proof of life after death? Certainly proof of the soul's ability to travel out of the body and move to other places and that would point to proof that the soul is not inextricably tied to the body and therefore probably moves on to something new imho.

[donq]

Sorry if this might be off topic.

Just finished watching the video that Mojo posted on another thread, and I've personally learned something which I'd like to share here.

"I started to realize that I wasn’t so scared of dying, I had just been scared, my whole life, of living. I started to realize...that we can all die in just one minute. But we can all live a million amazing moments..."

-from The Other Side of Ego by Jonathan Gravenor.

Yes, that's very true. isn't it?

P.S. Dear Hera, please forgive me if I said something not quite right on my previous post. It happened from time to time. 

[cyberangel]

Dear Hera, Monty and Robert

Please forgive my absence...Ive been off with a bad back injury but all better now. I have also had a lot going on besides so I haven't really had the time to sit and read properly and to give a proper reply. I will try and do this on Monday on my laptop as my phone is not so great at typing...keyboard very small and the screen dries my eyes. I just didn't want you all to think Ive gone off again and not returning...I promise that is not the case...just had lots on. Thank you all for taking the time to sharing your experiences and thoughts on the topic and I look forward to reading properly and sharing my own thoughts/feelings.

Take care and talk soon

Love and light

Cyberangel 🥰 🥰

[donq]

Dear Lorraine,

Sorry to hear about your back. And I'm glad that you are okay now.

Hera (or Ace) might be able to tell us better why this time of the year we will face some setbacks. And it might be continue like this for a week or so.
Sure, life has its ups and downs. So no need to worry about this setback. Anyway, there's a parable that "blade of grass bends with a strong wind because it is flexible, while a dried-up branch snaps because it is not." I believe "flexibility" is the key here. Sometimes, what is need is not external remedies but our patience. If we just let nature take its course, things will get better on their own. And one thing for sure is the life cannot have its ups all the time, it has to change to its downs. Also life cannot have its down all the time, it has to change to its ups.

Take care,
monty

[gruntal]

I haven't had a lot of contact with dead people. Often it is a surprise for both of us. I am not good at it - I don't even talk to alive people very well.

It would be interesting to talk to myself but some what removed. Like the Timelord Doctor that has many incarnations but isn't supposed to violate the First Law Of Time. My future self would presumably have more wisdom but my former selves would be begging for a way to get out gracefully from the mess they created.

Losing pets was the hardest thing I ever experienced which might be odd when you consider the lower animals aren't really individuals. Fido was just one of many with that one that actually crossed our paths and got adopted. But then everything is part of a group and/or will eventually lose their unique identity so the lost is only temporarily.

The most over whelming thing I ever experienced is to feel the ages - only 50 years or so in my case - on a daily basis compressed into a few seconds. Even the most boring and inconsequential life is amazing if you experience it all at once! At this level of existence the day to day trip is all most of us can tolerate. We would burn out and over load if we tried to deal with eternity even if we could see it.

What I do find common is the dead aren't really that wise or advanced but they tend to be more philosophical. So they must see more then we do and don't fret as much over things. But there are always "unfinished business" or things left unsaid and questions unanswered.

Which only goes back to what I said before. The only way to know anything is to get close to it but then you have to " let go " and step back to find out what it all means. What if everything crashes and burns? Does that mean it was all a waste of time? Or just some adventure!

[aceofcups]

Hello and Happy New Year All!

Lorraine, Hera, Robert, Monty, and Gruntal( George),

I haven't looked on forum for a very long time... so nice to see all you old-timers ( not in age but in wisdom) on forum and type chatting again.    I had thought maybe it all closed down a while ago.

Peace on the Cusp of the Old year Dying Away and New Year sprouting forth.

Charlie (Aceofcups)


Hidden Seeds

Sacred singular pulses of days
twelve in number
mirroring signs in the sky...
each shining forth its archetypical song
singing internally upon the earth.

Halfway brings in a new year
a precursory cycle on the wheel
filled loosely
with remembrances, regrets
and hopeful expectations.

Few reflect on these days
or their significance
as sewing patterns
on the cloth
the next year will unfurl.

Some seeds are tossed lightly on the ground
which will scatter at first wind –
other seeds picked and pondered upon
with diligence and determination –
fewer ones are sowed deep - taking years to bloom
and likewise years to get rid of.

Aceofcups 12/30/2019

[mojomojo]

Happy New Year, to all at the Godlight,
Lorraine, Hera, Monty, Gruntal and Charlie.


Robert.

[hera]

Thank you for your Good wishes Charlie and Robert. May 2020 bring us all peace.
Happy New Year Everyone

[donq]

Do not believe that the person who is trying to offer you solace lives his life effortlessly among the simple and quiet words that might occasionally comfort you. His life is filled with much hardship and sadness, and it remains far behind yours. But if it were otherwise, he could never have found these words.

-Rainer Maria Rilke, German poet

Happy New Year!
Lorraine, Hera, Robert, Gruntal, Ace (Karen and Leon, if you happened to pass by).

And if that's the case (as Rilke wrote above), here's my solace to everyone who's reading this:

Happy New Year!
There's always the difficulty at the beginning. Like a blade of grass pushing against an obstacle as it sprouts out of the earth. That's the growth, is it not?
And times of growth always come with difficulties. And everything is in motion. Somehow, as it's said in I Ching or Book of changes, "the difficulties at the beginning are too great for some persons. They get stuck and never find their way out; they fold their hands and give up the struggle. Such resignation is the saddest of all things."

New year, the beginning of new difficulties. But that also means new growth, new hope.

May your dream come true!

And may the strength and peace be with you!

Cheers from
monty

[cyberangel]

Dear Friends

How wonderful to see a flicker in the God Light again. I can't tell you what comfort there is to see all your familiar names pop up on screen...my dear sweet friends, Ace, Gruntal, Robert, Monty and a new name Hera. I want to wish you all a very Happy New Year. I am down with this terrible flu since Christmas Eve and although I am out the other side I am still quite weak and still fighting the remains of the flu's clutches on my chest.

My poor son and dear hubby have not escaped either and the flu has them also in its firm grip. This year has been particularly bad for this flu outbreak, so much so that the emergency department of our local hospital have issued statements that unless it is emergency to life or limb to stay away and treat at home. I was trying to look at this illness as a physical cleanse ridding me of any old negative energy before the new year begins. Unfortunately, it has decided to linger on, so I must try and continue to fight with it until one of us gives up hahaha.

I do hope you are all keeping well and are looking forward to the new year ahead on what she brings. Ace, I wonder what does the year or rather number 2020 mean in numerology? Maybe you can shed some light on it, if you have some spare time? I was wondering if the year would bring about a balance in energy or nature?

As yet I don't feel any change but did fell a huge build-up especially towards mid to late December. Did anyone else notice this intense energy build up? It wasn't particularly pleasant, lots of things coming to the front and centre for lots of people. Yet, when compared to the beginning of to mid-November there was what seemed to be an early Christmas Spirit, and it was very joyful.

I was disappointed that the year should end on a negative feeling. Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone else was feeling this intense energy shift also?

Once again so so lovely to hear from you all oh it is so nice to connect with you all.

love and Light (and peaceful energy)

Cyberangel

[hera]

I'll be interested to see what Ace's take on the current planetary energies is Cyberangel. As you discovered through Dec it's super intense and building.
Personally i'm experiencing this strongly (6 planets between 24 & 29 deg of the cardinals - 2 in Capricorn including Sun) so am not expecting to come through this unscathed.
I won't hijack this thread but what you said about the intense energy wouldn't allow me to resist Cyberangel I hope you and your family are fully recovered very soon

[cyberangel]

Dear Hera

Thank you for your reply and please by all means jump on board or indeed hijack this thread lol or even start a new thread...I am very interested in what you and everyone has to say. I know nothing about numerology or the workings of astrology but I am very sensitive in relation to energies and can pick up on the most subtle of shifts, but this is not a subtle energy, it is strong and indeed growing.

I feel this may be a combination of 'Earth's Energy' and it is certainly having a knock-on effect with her inhabitants. There has been a steady accumulation of energy from the start of last year and it seems to have gathered great pace but not without great disturbance...unease and at a great cost to ourselves but above all for the planet itself. I sense this is not just one energy at work, but many that have become mixed up or intertwined and are now feeding off each other...now whether this was meant to happen I am unsure...as I am unsure of how it will eventually play out...but I agree with you...I dont think many with come through it unscathed.

Thank you also for your well wishes

Love and Light

Cyberangel

[aceofcups]

Hi Angel, Rob, Monty, George and my astrological friend Hera,, yes indeed Hera and Angel their are some quite challenging Astrological and Numerical cycles going on this Month of January and whole year,,, Which will test our resolves and challenge our ability in staying healthy and Happy in Physical Body, Mind and Heart.

2020 is a Universal 4 year... the Symbol of 4 is a Square,, relates to the Earth and Work.. slows things down on Earth, tests us at times, builds determination, outer and inner strength, four is the number of discipline, building a "foundation" for the future, working with the element of Earth with earthy limitations, watch out for depressive periods which 4 and Saturn ( another energy which will be strong this winter cycle and throughout this year).

This Earthy elements is also mirrored in Astrological energy which are around now...Capricorn! Capricorn! Capricorn! ( right now we have Mercury, Jupiter, South Node, Sun, Saturn and Pluto all in Capricorn right now,,, the slower moving planets will remain in Capricorn all Year) and its ruler of Saturn. Saturn is the Stern practical teacher, it relates to the Laws of Karma... doesn't mean that things don't get done, and we don't learn a lot but may take extra Time ( another Saturnine concept), with periods of backsliding. On a larger scale Capricorn/Saturn rules larger global issues of Politics(yuck), Environmental- Ecology Concerns and Weather fluctuations ( could be another dozy of weather happening around the Earth.. All areas mentioned which might take, sorry to say, quite a negative slant at times for many. Saturn is also the energy patterns of fear and worry.. which unfortunately is strong in many theses days...

Don't want to be all doom and gloom, there are great long lasting very important lessons which are gained by facing and overcoming the limitations which may crop up. Any individual can work on not getting caught if they can maintain a sense of their deep inner commitments to Spirit.. and not getting swamped by others fears etc etc..

Saturn is being exactly conjunct to Pluto on Jan 12th... some of its influential energy has already been manifesting strongly in the world ( politics - earth and weather)... a lot already. Pluto is a transformative power, the power of the old dying away to make way for the New. At times hidden/ a lurking power as strong as a bomb..and as destructive. Usually it is like a stone tossed in the water that has large ripples of consequences from it's center point of manifestation... what that symbolically will play out in the world,, who knows..  Pluto also rules Death so it fits to some degree being posted on this connective link. And today is the 8th day of the 12 Days of Christmas connected to Scorpio. Esoterically, each day of 12 days are related to one of the 12 signs of the zodiac the energy archetype of that sign is showered inwardly upon the Earth ( Scorpio is the sign of Death and Transformation and Angel's Sun sign)

Good time to meditate on Peace and Good-will to Humanity and all those suffering.... and any transitioning and our Helpers on inner planes of consciousness.

Regards and Peace,
Aceofcups

[aceofcups]

Numerology

Here is a way of figuring out your personal year number for 2020... which may or may not harmonize with the 4 universal year.
Wrote this on Forum year ago.

Here is a formula for finding your Personal Year Number:

To find your Personal Year number for any given year, add the month and the day of your birth, plus the Universal Year ( for 2020 it is a 4 (2+0+2+0= 4))
For example -- someone born on May 15 finds his or her Personal Year number for 2020 by adding 5 (May) plus 6 (the fifteenth day) plus by adding May(5) + 15th (1+5=6)+ to the 2020 So the Personal year number for someone born May 15 -- 5+6+4= 15 reduced to one digit it would be a 6 year.

Here is a short overview of the energy tone for each year in the Nine year cycle according to Numerology. By understanding the energy one is working with, in their energy field in that cycle, one can use it to full advantage and get into their Soul Flow.

ONE YEAR: Time of Self-Initiative -- Your number one personal year is a time to plant new seeds of growth in your Life. It is the start of new 9 year cycle. Start new projects, do the things you really wanted to do. ONE is a time of self-confidence and self-motivatived. You can expect many new things to come into your life. In some cases the change can be dramatic, trust your inner Voice,,, not every seed we plant will come to life, and some will come to life later on in the cycle. Things to watch in One is being to aggressive and Ego Oriented.. Try to align to our True Individuality of our Higher Self inside of the lower more selfish aspects of our separate ego. HIGHER FREQUENCY: Initiation, Awakening To New, Aligning to Universal Oneness

TWO YEAR: Learning to Listen - Being Receptive - The number two personal year demands cooperation. Unlike the number one personal year when you flew more or less solo, this year is for looking at the ideas of your associates. Just as it was all about "you" in your number one personal year, the “two’ personal year is about partnering with others and allowing them to help you. This vibration is good for forming new friendships, romantic or otherwise. Two has a much mellower energy then the very active one of last year. Listen to music ..be the Peacemaker, Learn to Compromise at times. HIGHER FREQUENCY-- aligning one's Personality Self to one's Higher Self

THREE YEAR: Year of Creativity and Self-Expression.. Being Social, making new friends. Your number three personal year is a time in which social communication is key. Find means to express yourself, be it thru Art, Music, speaking, Videos etc.. The Three (the Triad- Triangle) is time to let one’s Individual Self shine. HIGHER FREQUENCY - Balancing the Grand Triad of Spirit, Soul and Matter within Us.

FOUR YEAR: A Time to Lay a Foundation - Four-Square.. A number four personal year is a time in which you are setting foundations in all aspects of your life. Disconnect yourself from Petty anxieties will only hinder your progress, so lose them and focus on your overall plan for this cycle of your life. There is work to be done and you are the one who will do it, so roll up your sleeves and get busy. The year can be hard for those who procrastinate. This year is less social then the previous 3 year... The key word for the year is WORK on any project which moves you.. HIGHER FREQUENCY - Bringing Spiritual Energy down into our Life on Earth.

FIVE YEAR: Pivotal middle Year of 9 year Cycle,,, time of wanting or actual Change. Transformation and independence are what you will experience in this your number five personal year. You may WANT to change your job, your living quarters, your relationships. 5 is a restless energy, especially coming out of the work to grindstone energy of the previous 4 year. Time for new adventures, travel, meeting new people.. five has to do with 5 physical senses so great time to get one's body in shape if that is needed. One of biggest things in 5 is to Expect the Unexpected at times. 4 was learning to be organized and make plans, but 5 is learning to be open in each moment to the Universe to bring to you exactly what you need. Sudden happenings . This year will be like a roller coaster with many changes in direction throughout. Your key words this year are CHANGE AND FREEDOM. HIGHER FREQUENCY - Being Present in the HERE and NOW.

SIX YEAR: Six year is time of Responsibility to Relationships, Friends and Family. It is time to put things in HARMONY and BALANCE. Service to close ones. Although it is active time for helping others there is also a peace and contentment in the energy of Six.. Listen to music.. 6 is group creativity and group activities. Good year for study. Corrections of a positive kind can be made in business, romance and family relationships. This could mean a marriage or divorce literally or in a broad sense of the word. You are held accountable for your deeds. Responsibility to family and the obligation to serve humanity is paramount. The key word for this year is RESPONSIBILITY. HIGHER FREQUENCY - Living Out and Loving in one's Karmic Responsiblity, One's Dharma

SEVEN YEAR: Year of Retreat and Inner Exploration. Time to spend some quality time with oneself -- both in a psychological and spiritual sense. Time in which to ponder on things - self-examination. Time to Meditate, Study,,, get ones inner life in order. You must discover the secret to being alone without being lonely. This is not a year that is particularly good for material gains and less being social. Is time to be alone when one can or just with close deep friends you can have deeper communications with. It is a year for going inside yourself aligning to Higher Self for spiritual understanding. Have faith that you are where you need to be. Watch your mental health, try to get it on track. Your key word this year is PATIENCE and MEDITATION. HIGHER FREQUENCY - Understanding Deeper Mysteries of Life and Death - Awakening Divine Wisdom

EIGHT YEAR: Going Back into the World. This is a year for business and financial issues, also time to put money resources to good use to help others. This is your year for harvest and you will reap what you have sown for the past seven years. So it could be one of prosperity or difficulty. In eight we can have more worldly power to deal with, use if wisely. An important word for you this year is BUSINESS. HIGHER FREQUENCY - What is our Spiritual business in the world,,what patterns of Destiny are we living out.

NINE YEAR: This is the closing year of your nine year cycle. It has a two part process. First is getting kudos and rewards for things completed. Second and biggest part is getting rid of stuff in life which is no longer useful. It is year of cleaning house both outwardly and inwardly. You will be getting ready for next years new beginnings by ridding yourself of anything, person or situation that is no longer needed in your life. There are many situations and relationships that are no longer useful in your life. They have simply outlived their usefulness to you. Try not to hold on to someone or something that needs its freedom. Do your best to be understanding and tolerant. It is very important to tie up loose ends and finish any project that you may be putting off. It is extremely necessary to address any unresolved issues in relationships, because these things will come back unless you put proper closure to them. Teach compassion by your example. Be concerned about health (physical or emotional) issues if they arise. The key phrase for the year is SERVICE TO HUMANITY. HIGHER FREQUENCY - Service to Our Fellow Travelers , Learning to Let Go and Move on.

[cyberangel]

Dear Ace

Thank you so much for all this information...I'm sure others here really appreciate you time on explaining it too. There is a lot to read and take in so I shall read it later tonight in bed.

I think you very kindly worked out Karen's and my numbers and from what I remember I think we're a 3...but I will use your formula later to double check.

In relation to the 2020 or year 4 energy...I can totally pick up on all the energies mentioned. I wish I could feel hopeful about the start to this new year but I just don't...I feel it will be well into March/April before the energies ease out...but once again don't feel it will be for long.

I envision all the elements, political and climate energies are all fueling each other. It's very hard to watch on TV but also incredibly hard to feel the impacts reach the ethereal realms.

I am fascinated how other planets can have such a huge impact on our planet and indeed upon ourselves. At the moment the energy I'm feeling is not unlike the tower card in the tarot deck...and it's very unnerving because I haven't felt an energy quite this negative before...but I will look to it as something that can be rebuilt bigger and stronger...fingers crossed.

Of course anyone reading this please know this is only "my own feeling" and is certainly not a prediction, each must seek out their own intuition on the year ahead...I am just merely sharing what I am sensing.

I will definitely read over your write up again Ace and once again thanks so much for sharing. I hope you are keeping well in yourself my friend.

Love and Light always my friend

Cyberangel

[hera]

Thank you so much for taking the time to give such a detailed analysis of the current planetary and numerological configurations Ace.
Yes, all that activity in Capricorn seems to be showing itself both globally and on a personal level for many people, as you mentioned CyberAngel...'and it's very unnerving because I haven't felt an energy quite this negative before...but I will look to it as something that can be rebuilt bigger and stronger...fingers crossed' is a beautiful description of the energies of the moment. Often harder to look for the positive when such strong influences are calling for endings and total restructuring of many facets of our world, but you are looking for the positive while manoeuvring through the trials presenting themselves, which (only imo) add light to the energy and will make a difference to the outcome for all.

As a person who has Sun in Capricorn (ruled by Saturn) and Scorpio Asc (ruled by Pluto) these energies are reverberating through my physical and emotional self on quite deep levels. Last year was the beginning of huge challenges which are not yet resolved and if we look at the astrology of it, won't be for many years to come.

I believe that we are all here because we chose to work through, learn lessons from and contribute to the evolution of our beautiful planet and the life forces here with us at this time which is something which makes these changes and challenges something to be embraced when it feels as if all around us is chaos and madness. It will indeed be rebuilt bigger and stronger if that is our intention and your post stating your feelings about this has helped me for which I thank you Angel

[aceofcups]

BTW... I forgot to put in my Astrology write-up there is a Full Moon Lunar Eclipse on Jan 10... it will be in orb vicinity of the Saturn/Pluto conjunction In Capricorn

to paraphrase the famous line of Bette Davis ... “Fasten your seat belts folks, it's going to be a bumpy night."

ace

[cyberangel]

Thank you again Ace and I look forward to more of your posts 🤞

Thank you also Hera for your lovely words. I try to always draw on the positive energy even if I must manifest it myself...it's not always easy... especially when you are up against powerful energies...but I am always reminded of a verse I found some time ago... unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an author's name to give the credit...but I'd like to share it here.

"Only in my pain, did I find my will.
Only in my chaos, did I learn to be still.
Only in my fear, did I find my might.
Only in my darkness, did I see my light"

Love and Light

Cyberangel

[donq]

Dear Lorraine,

A quick reply here. Sorry to hear about the flu.

Getting well soon. And take care.

From your friend,

monty

[cyberangel]

Dear Monty

Thank you for your well wishes and it's so lovely to hear from you again. I hope you are keeping well my friend?

Love and Light

Always

[gruntal]

Oddly for one seemingly good at maths I find numerology and astrology intimidating. I just love to use simple Oracle Cards with pretty pictures. Not always soothing but they suggest things to me mind I wouldn't always think of by myself. I know that is because I am not acting alone so I am not always ruled by science and logic. It can be hard to let go though - but a necessary step in accepting what is to be or what I am a part of.

I sort of figured out I can expect about 9 more years of life that won't be a continuation of and the numbers seem to confirm that. If so it will interesting to look back in a decade if I'm still around and wonder how I got through the scary part beginning in 2020 ....

[syedali2020]

This world is like a dream and you wake up when you die. What you thought was your doom will be your joy and it will be like waking up laughing at the break of dawn (taken from sayings of Jalaluddin Rumi and shams Tabriz)