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Post by donq on Jun 10, 2017 5:39:34 GMT
Last night I had a dream. The following story is something I invented it from that dream. I was walking out of a 7-11 store when I saw a motorbike hit a pregnant girl and drove away. A few people and I gathered around and saw that the girl became unconscious and there was a lot of blood on her stomach. She really needed a doctor. I ran back to my home which was nearby and drove my car back there and brought her to the closest hospital. She and her baby were saved by the doctors in time. After the girl regained her consciousness, she blamed that you were the one who hit her! Worse than that, everyone, doctors, nurses, and her relatives also believed that. Or why did you help her in the first place if you didn't feel guilty? And you asked yourself why she did this to you. She really didn't recall anything? Or she just could not handle the hospital's fee? Or she wanted to take advantage and wanted to get more big money (compensation) from that? Though you were willing to pay the hospital's fee for her anyway, as you were so generous person (and rich), but her accuse of you made the situation so different, didn't it? Let's say that with some miracle, one of the nurses there would like to be your witness as she happened to see the whole accident while she was taking the bus to the hospital (Yes, it was very unlikely, I know). Let's say you was so lucky that you just only had to pay a lot money without going to jail because of that. Phew! My question is, if you came across the similar situation the next time, will you still help?
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Post by gruntal on Jun 10, 2017 15:22:47 GMT
At a certain level I would resent a recurrence of these things because it would seem like a punishment twice over. But at another level I know a lesson learned either is left behind or doesn't even have any more effect on you. You are truly beyond it. At that level what should be a tragedy is akin to being bitten by a mosquito.
When your so thick you can't even feel a bug sting you might feel elated - or numb - I don't know which. You could always go back and see what if felt like to refresh old memories ....
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Post by donq on Jun 10, 2017 15:59:29 GMT
Hi George,
I do like what you said:
...a lesson learned either is left behind or doesn't even have any more effect on you. You are truly beyond it. At that level what should be a tragedy is akin to being bitten by a mosquito.
Very well said. Thanks. Hope you are fine.
I was going to post this:
Though my question might sound like I didn't agree that we should help the next time but it didn't. Someone (people with much experiences) might warn us that if we are going to do the good things we have to do them wisely. But I still believe that doing the good thing is nothing we could calculate (good and/or bad result) in advance. It might turn out to be bad or it might turn our to be good. We cannot know. No one could. We, as spiritual persons, will do it (in this case, helping) just because it is something that needs to be done in such and such situation. It's some kind of our inevitable doing which come from our impulses, to help. That's it. That's all.
I have had so many personal experiences like the story I told above. And I still don't get that worldly logic: if you didn't do something wrong, why helped. Neither I'm that naive (yes, I used to be. lol). I do know that doing the good thing doesn't mean I will get something good in return. But yes, I still was surprised so many times after I got so bad things after doing the good things. And I've stopped wondering about it for a very long time.
Again, I'd like to encourage you (I mean, everyone reading this) to do the good thing, if it comes for your impulse, from deep down inside you. And from my experiences, I found that even you might got some bad results in return after doing the good things, there's still a light in the midst of that darkness. Always. You just have to look a bit closer. Let me put it in this way, being a goo
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Post by sparklekaz on Jun 11, 2017 16:02:02 GMT
Hi Monty, I think you've asked something similar before Monty. I'd loved to have heard about the dream that made you invent this story. So what you are asking is. What would we do if the same thing happened to us. Would we still be a good Samaritan or would we be afraid to step in and help someone again if we too had a good turn, turned against us in this way. I'd like to think if it were me I would still help someone in need if I could. I'm not saying it wouldn't make me think twice, or hesitate. Because human nature being what it is "once bitten, twice shy" as my mum used to say. Ultimately, we have to be true to ourselves. Not let a bad experience change who we are as people. I personally would not be able to forgive myself if I ignored someones plight, because my trust had been abused in the past. It would not be right or fair to make an innocent person, basically suffer, for something someone else did would it? Love and light Kaz
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Post by donq on Jun 11, 2017 17:38:06 GMT
Hi Karen,
I've just seen that my last paragraph was not completed. Sorry. As you know that English is not my first language, so I usually (except sometimes in rush) write it down on my computer first before I post (copy and paste) it here. So, here's what's missing: Let me put it in this way, being a good person (always doing good things) doesn't mean it could prevent you from any bad, bitter and/or dangerous situations. On the contrary, it seems in the real world that being a good person might always bring you to meet so many bad, bitter and dangerous situations more than average persons. But somehow, I assure you, somehow, any good person still could survive those worst situations. Always do. No one knows how they could survive those situations, even they themselves.
Okay, now, Karen, let's talk.
Yes, I've asked something similar before. Why? Hmm...because sometimes I really felt like I was losing faith? I mean, I was losing faith on people. What are so many people in this world thinking? I've given up to understand them long time ago. hahaha
About my dream? It was exact story as I told but with some difference. While I was seeing the blood on the pregnant girl's stomach, and was going to run back home to drive my car back there and help her, there was a thought arising in my mind: what if she thought I was the one who hit her? And my dream stopped there. Anyone (especially a woman) who drives a car will be warned that do not pick up any hitchhiker as it might be dangerous. There's also a warning about not to help anyone on the street as the reason I told in the story above. Yes, this is still the worldly wise, isn't it? But we, as persons who are walking our spiritual paths, will we not help when we see someone in need? Will we risk and ignore those possible dangers? Even it might be okay this time, but how about the next time? We will still be that lucky? And when will our lucks run out?
Maybe what you said is the very key (or the pure spiritual logic):
Not let a bad experience change who we are as people. I personally would not be able to forgive myself if I ignored someones plight, because my trust had been abused in the past. It would not be right or fair to make an innocent person, basically suffer, for something someone else did would it?
If my story above happened to me, I should not stop helping the next time I get the similar situation. Why? Because it's not fair for the next person I'm going to help, right? Or let me put it the exaggerated way, I should not let my past experience of the pregnant girl kill another person (if I won't help). Anyway, that doesn't mean the one I'm going to help will not blame me again. lol But yes, as George said it wisely, doing good things more and more will make you thicker and thicker, until you go beyond (don't feel anything about) those mosquito's bites any more.
Nice to talking to you, Karen. And I have to say goodnight here. Sorry for any typos.
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