The Void

[alcinious]

I had an nde a year and a half ago where I experienced a void of nothingness. I was terrified I wanted nothing more then to return to my family and loved ones. I tried reasoning "I forgave, I was nice, what was it, what did I miss God?". Love, love is what brought me back I had to think of everyone in my life that I've ever loved. After what seemed like a long time fighting my way out of the void with love I was back in my car I was still terrified of what just happened my phone was dead and I didn't know it at the time but I fractured my spine. I fought my way out of the car and started walking towards home with the thought "I have to tell them.". Since this experience I've had many other strange experiences fear seems to be a big factor in these. My question is how can I experience the light. In meditation I see a similar void of darkness. At first it scared me now I'm starting to realize that it's nothing to be afraid. I just want to discuss this with people that won't think I just want attention.

[donq]

Hi alcinious,

Welcome to our forum.
You've come to the right place. I mean you can discuss spiritual stuff with our friends here and no one would ever think that you just want attention. I'm assure that everyone here is so friendly. :-)
Also you can try our chat room which will be opened in a few hours from now (I live in a different time zone so I have to tell you this way).
I had NDE 30 years ago. And one thing I can tell for sure is that experience has changed my life a lot (even that time I already had been into spirituality). I believe NDE experience is one of the best spiritual teachings/teachers.    

[alcinious]

Thank you DonQ

I have been reading the forums here for the past few days I decided to share my experience with you guys because you guys seem like a great community with good insight.

After posting this i was doing some more reading and I came across a poem from Rumi containing this.



Workers rush toward some hint

of emptiness, which they then

start to fill. Their hope, though,

is for emptiness, so don't think

you must avoid it. It contains

what you need!

Dear soul, if you were not friends

with the vast nothing inside,

why would you always be casting you net

into it, and waiting so patiently?



This invisible ocean has given you such abundance,

but still you call it "death",

that which provides you sustenance and work.



God has allowed some magical reversal to occur,

so that you see the scorpion pit

as an object of desire,

and all the beautiful expanse around it,

as dangerous and swarming with snakes.

This is how strange your fear of death

and emptiness is, and how perverse

the attachment to what you want.

I think i have some reflecting to do on this I would love to hear from others about what they think of my experience.

[alcinious]

Something I've come to realize is that there is no good or evil. There is just ignorance and that is what leads to fear that something is out to get us. I've been doing some reading and I found this.


The only thing that burns in hell
is the part of you that won't let go of your life:
your memories, your attachments.
They burn them all away, but they're not punishing you,
they're freeing your soul.
If you're frightened of dying and you're holding on,
you'll see devils tearing your life away.
If you've made your peace,
then the devils are really angels freeing you from the earth.

All is one. All is god

[alcinious]

Sorry to keep posting but I've been reflecting a lot lately, reading and mediating. So last night I was getting ready for sleep I was very tired I was reading the eight fold path and some other buddhist teachings. I then started feeling that fear again it's a weird sensation to explain it's a fear that grips me. So I started doing the "who is afraid?" "Who am I" inquiry that helped for a bit. Then it started creeping back so I thought of something Ace told me last night. He said that the void is actually something people mediate on and actually seek.

So I reached a point where I was tired of being afraid I was unable to sleep and I was sick of it. So I laid down and started mediating on the void I imagined that I walked into a cave and there was a ledge, on this ledge there was a diving board. I got on the diving board and jumped into a void. I then imagined myself floating in nothingness. If thoughts came I just let them pass. I stayed in this state until morning.

Maybe the thing that scared me so much is actually the place that I should seek the most.

[Leon]

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Alcinious I need to point out that this section is for questions and answers only, the main spiritual section is more suited to general discussions. We keep it as questions and answers so that people reading can either attempt to answer the question or they can choose the best answer that suits them. If a conversation goes backwards and forwards, it makes it hard for people to find the answer they are looking for as they have to read through too much conversation. I hope you understand.

[alcinious]

Ah ok sorry I should have read the guidelines.