A glimpse into other realms or tricks of the mind.

[mojomojo]

Do people experience visions, when giving Reiki treatments, are they tricks of the mind or glimpses into other realms?
Some quiet profound, some quiet eerie and some quiet divine, what have you experienced?

[baangus]

Hi mojomojo. I had two very clear, very specific visions during reiki/rebirth sessions. I do believe I transcended the physical and entered the realm of pure spirit for a time, not a trick of the mind.

I have to ask: What is it that differentiates a spirit experience from a trick? A vision is a vision, is it not?

[aceofcups]

Hey Mojo.. nice to see you on forum again,, been a while.

Have worked with many healers and nurses using Reiki and Therapeutic Touch over the last 35-40 years... and I would say it really depends on person doing the healing if it evokes visual images for them. Some people are more visual then others naturally, then it also depends on level of attainment the individual has evolved to within their own being.

Energy healing many times works through the Etheric/ Chi level within us and and on the person one is working on. But one is also being an instrument for more spiritual energies to also align within... which can certainly evoke images is one has that ability.  Many healers I know get images related to the person they are working on during their treatments. And in some the visuals they get helps them in knowing where to focus and in the modulation of energy they are working with.

Going back to your question... in some people who I would call somewhat fantasy producing image people...they can get astral images having less true validity.

But knowing you are very visual from what you shared before I would think you should try to work with and discern the images you get in helping others. They may certainly be genuine.

Peace my friend
aceofcups

[baangus]

Jun 23, 2015 20:07:07 GMT aceofcups said:

...in some people who I would call somewhat fantasy producing image people...they can get astral images having less true validity.  

Hi ace, nice to see you, it's been a while. Yes, I first came across this idea of astral images 35-40 years ago while a member of a new age group. I never understood it, who determines that one person's visions are less true and valid than someone else's? Also, the last time we spoke you were talking about the validity of all paths. Yet your comment above appears to suggest that everyone's spiritual experiences are not in fact equally valid. 

[mojomojo]

Hello Ace,
Yes, it has been a while,
I have heard people say, initiation into Reiki can turn your life upside down, from my experiences which are still ongoing, that was the under statement of the century.
It seems the wheels of life are big and heavy, and while it takes time for the old to stop and the new to gain momentum, there always seems to be a period when everything is up in the air.
Slowly, now bits are falling back to earth, and the path is been laid.
I have to say for someone who never had an interest in healing, and even though I have only dipped my toe in the pool, the results and experiences have left me in awe, even shocked at times, and on occasion extremely humbled.
I know full well, my ego can escape with full fury on occasion, and thought this would have been a problem, but so far it has had the opposite effect.
I'am absolutely delighted, to have followed the signs and gone with the flow, and feel quite sure this is where I was always meant to be, I feel extremely honoured and humbled to have experienced what I have so far, knowing full well this is only the beginning.
It seems funny, one of the pieces that fell back to earth, was the meeting by chance of someone who is involved in the Reiki Federation Ireland, and is also a quantum touch practitioner, yes, the upheaval even involves moving country, we most certainly didn't see that coming.
And on it must flow.



Namaste Ace.

[aceofcups]

Hey Mojo (Robert),,,

sounds wonderful the changes Reiki has initiated,... sure Kaz/Karen will also be thrilled being a big supporter of uses of Reiki on site here.    Reiki, Quantum, Therapeutic Touch and other forms of being an instrument of energy healing helps us to work on and exercise the compassion principles without us to me.  And can certainly be a humbling and holy experience when it is flowing through us to others.

Did I get that you and your wife are moving to Ireland or where you saying the person you hooked up has helped you to align with energy in Ireland?

Been going thru some big changes myself of late, as I have been looking for a new place to live and getting rid of tons of stuff in the process and consciously giving stuff away etc.

How is your wife doing with Reiki practices?

peace
aceofcups

[cyberangel]

Hi Robert

Lovely to see you posting again

I can also relate to the 'cleansing and balancing' experiences after Reiki attunements. I think had I known before I did Reiki 1 & 2, I probably would not have gone ahead with it...however, I am happy to say that the energy has settled down and I have become more aligned with it, but it took several months - to nearly a year, to fully adjust to what was going on.

Like you, I don't see myself as a healer, and still don't. I don't think this is my calling (as yet). I do however feel a calling for some healing work to do with nature, and I am slowly learning about the natural healing properties as well as the different energies in plants and nature. This is something that is going to take time to learn and understand.

I am, as they say, just going with the flow, and seeing where it will lead me. I am enjoying it though and find it so interesting as well as energising!

I have not turned my back on what I have learned with Reiki, and I do think in time, I will understand more 'naturally' as I develop with other things, if that makes sense.

I am so glad you feel more comfortable now and its lovely to hear how things are developing for you and Beatrice It may be just me, but I feel, once you and Beatrice return to Ireland, and touch the soil, you will see a lot more things fall into place for you. It's just my own feeling you understand

Anyway, so nice to see you posting again and look forward to hearing more from yourself and hopefully Beatrice. Please pass on my regards to her

Blessings to you both

Love and Light

[mojomojo]

Hello all,
Yes Ace, due to circumstances beyond our control, we are moving back to our country of origin, Ireland, without giving too much away, Beatrice's health has been hit again, and she can no longer work in a stressful envoirement, economically that means London is out of the question.
While she still intends to do Reiki 2, I don't think she uses it that much, I'm not really sure what her intentions are, but she has had a lot on her plate of late.
We are taking a short break in Donegal, before heading back to London to pack up, and sell up, do the Reiki 2 weekend in July, then return to Ireland.
We were only in Dublin three days, when we met the Reiki/quantum touch practitioner.
There is a great sense of freedom to be found, when lightening your load, don't you think, when I think back to the days of been able to put everything I owned in a rucksack, I do hope your reason to move is of favourable circumstance.

Hello Lorraine,
While I have not been posting of late, I have been taking the odd look in, and loved your posts on Druidism, just reading the posts I could feel energy move and when you mentioned you were studying ogham (have I spelt that correctly), it struck such a chord, for some reason, I could feel excitement because someone was learning ogham.
I know very little of Druidism, but am I right in saying they draw their energy from the earth, and nature (trees and the elements), I believe we have spoke of the energy of storms and full moons before, which leads me to the practitioner we met in Dublin, who informed me, I was using a combination of earth energy and Reiki.
May I be so bold as to say, and I hope this does not cause embarrassment, but I have always felt your energy very strongly and am now thinking does the connection come from Druidism, another reason why I say this, is on account of a vision, for want of a better word, experienced, giving a Reiki treatment.
I saw a number of figures cloaked and hooded (a deep blue colour), the hoods hiding their faces, standing in a circle in a forest, it seemed a little bit eerie, I asked who they were, one broke the circle and faced me, the head started rising slowly and I'm afraid for some reason I bottled it, saying its okay I don't need to know, to which he/she returned to the circle.
I have given up thinking I have gone mad, now I just except it.
I have no idea where all this is going to take me, but where ever it is, it's meant to be, lovely to catch up with you all.
Namaste, one and all.

[aceofcups]

Hail Robert,,, and let me send Beatrice healing waves also. I wish you well in your new surroundings. My moved was somewhat forced due to landlord selling property,... so, looking to get into Senior housing... But move does show up in my astrology chart,,, so who knows from what level of our being our changes come from.

peace
aceofcups

[cyberangel]

Hi Robert,

Thank you for the reply.

First of all, I offer best intentions through the ether, to you, and especially to Beatrice, and I pray for a speedy recovery

You are correct with the Ogham spelling although the ‘g’ is silent and it is pronounced ‘Ooh-em’. I will do a write up asap on what I have learnt so far in regards to the Ogham language, its history, the trees, their symbols and their meanings.

You are quite correct in saying that Druidry/Druidism/Druids “draw their energy from the earth, and nature (trees and the elements)” and once again I hope to write something shortly on the Druid path, so please forgive me if I don’t reveal too much here as I don’t want to end up repeating or jumping on your post

In relation to the ‘cloaked and hooded figures’ you mention, I think there is a lot of ‘hidden’ stuff there. I am not good at interpreting dreams, that is Karen’s gift, but you say this was a vision, so I will go with what I feel from the energy of your words, if that is ok.

I feel a strong sense of longing from you, to belong to a community or clan and I also feel for some reason you feel divided with family, friends or work at the moment. This craving for a deeper sense of belonging I feel is represented by the hooded figures, but I feel you are not ready or willing to face yourself (your own deep down emotions).

I cannot say for sure whether you have a druid energy about you, but both you and Beatrice have a strong Celtic energy, which I felt immediately when I first spoke with you, and then briefly with Beatrice. I can also understand what the practitioner you met in Dublin was referring to, when they said you were using a combination of earth energy, and Reiki.

Earth energy for me is like trying to ride a wild stallion, you know you cannot tame it and so you hold on tight and try not get hurt by its power and strength, until you can manage to learn to harness and control it and then you can enjoy the ride together, but although you have gained each other’s trust, you know you will never fully control it, that it is you that is being allowed to share in its journey, and that at any moment the energy can shift, but if you ride long enough, you will sense it, like the rest of the wilderness, you will learn to feel it before change occurs.

Reiki energy, is like floating on a calm sea, feeling the energy of the waves gently ripple around my entire body, to be fully aware of this incredible energy all around me, but finding the courage to let go and allow it to hold and support me, to trust it to lead me to deeper waters. I found it was only when I doubted myself or feared where I was going, that a Tsunami would suddenly appear and wash over me and I felt myself nearly drowning in my own self doubt and emotions, tossing and twirling, with a loss of direction and no control, it was only when I succumbed, I was able to return to the surface, battered, bruised, disorientated and confused, but alive...SO VERY ALIVE!

My friend, you have not embarrassed me I know I have a strong personality and I try to be wary of becoming overpowering or domineering, which is never my intention, but sometimes I become so passionate, that I fear I may come across that way. I guess, I am very fortunate in one way to learn all I have learnt on my own, without joining with others, whether by choice or by circumstances, so I have gained a lot by my own personal growth, but sometimes that can confuse one as in, am I truly always spirit led or ego led? I think I am mainly spirit led, but I am aware that my ego is very much alive and kicking LOL

Anyway, I didn’t want to turn this into a long drawn out reply but once again, here I am, still writing lol...anyway, before I leave I wanted to leave you with a excerpt about colour and what is represents. This is in relation to your vision of the 'deep blue' cloaked figure. I hope it helps or can maybe shed some light on the meaning.

Blessings

Love and Light

The colour blue is the colour of trust and responsibility.

This colour is one of trust, honesty and loyalty. It is sincere, reserved and quiet, and doesn't like to make a fuss or draw attention. It hates confrontation, and likes to do things in its own way.
From a colour psychology perspective, blue is reliable and responsible.
This colour exhibits an inner security and confidence.

You can rely on it to take control and do the right thing in difficult times.
It has a need for order and direction in its life, including its living and work spaces.
This is a colour that seeks peace and tranquillity above everything else, promoting both physical and mental relaxation.

It reduces stress, creating a sense of calmness, relaxation and order - we certainly feel a sense of calm if we lie on our backs and look into a bright blue cloudless sky. It slows the metabolism. The paler the blue the more freedom we feel.

In the meaning of colours, blue relates to one-to-one communication, especially communication using the voice - speaking the truth through verbal self-expression - it is the teacher, the public speaker.
The colour blue is idealistic, enhancing self-expression and our ability to communicate our needs and wants. It inspires higher ideals.

Blue's wisdom comes from its higher level of intelligence, a spiritual perspective.
Blue is the colour of the spirit, devotion and religious study. It enhances contemplation and prayer. On the other hand, blue's devotion can be to any cause or concept it believes in, including devotion to family or work.
Blue is the helper, the rescuer, the friend in need. It's success is defined by the quality and quantity of its relationships. It is a giver, not a taker. It likes to build strong trusting relationships and becomes deeply hurt if that trust is betrayed.

Blue is conservative and predictable, a safe and non-threatening colour, and the most universally liked colour of all, probably because it is safe and non-threatening. At the same time blue is persistent and determined to succeed in whichever endeavours it pursues.

Change is difficult for blue. It is inflexible and when faced with a new or different idea, it considers it, analyzes it, thinks it over slowly and then tries to make it fit its own acceptable version of reality.
Blue is nostalgic. It is a colour that lives in the past, relating everything in the present and the future to experiences in the past.

Blue Represents

Communication: Blue relates to one-to-one verbal communication and self expression.

Peace and calm: The colour blue induces calm and peace within us, particularly the deeper shades.

Honesty: Blue is the colour of truth.

Authority: The darker the colour blue, the more authority it has.

Religion: Blue is the colour of devotion and religious study.

Wisdom: Blue enhances the wisdom of the intellect.

Effects of Blue

Conservative: The colour blue is a safe colour - the most universally liked colour of all.

Predictable: Blue is not impulsive or spontaneous and it doesn't like to be rushed - blue needs to analyse and
think things through, and to work to a plan.

Orderly: Blue needs to have direction & order- untidiness and unpredictability overwhelms it.

Rigid: Blue likes familiarity. It doesn't like change and will stubbornly do things its own way, even if there is a better way.

Dark Blue: Dark blue is the colour of conservatism and responsibility. Although it appears to be cool, calm and collected, it is the colour of the non-emotional worrier with repressed feelings, the pessimist and the hypocrite. Dark blue can be compassionate but has trouble showing it as its emotions run deep. Dark blue is a serious masculine colour representing knowledge, power, and integrity, and is used quite often in the corporate world.

[mojomojo]

Hi Lorraine,
Thank you for your in depth response, but I truly wasn't expecting you to go to that much trouble, but again many thanks.
No, the vision to me at the time seemed to suggest a connection or intermediate link to the energy been used, I say this because every time I do a treatment on someone else, I get a vision, seemingly of where the energy is coming from or whom its channelling through, I never get visions when working on myself. I don't even like the word vision, as that suggests something seen, it's more a live interaction with people In places, I know not where. I have heard people say they go to Reiki land when doing a treatment, Reiki land to me is a milky white transparent realm, where there are always other beings present helping with the process. I mentioned the hooded cloak vision as it might have had a Druid aspect to it, that you might have recognised, but then again I could be completely wrong, at other times I have had a Japanese gentleman nod in approval, and if I started to slip, would snap "concentrate" at me, I have had tears streaming down my face at what I have seen and felt, giving treatments, and trust me when I say I do not cry.

The different energies, I think I can recognise, the Reiki energy seems milder, will relax you, make you feel good, even give a spiritual high, obviously it has it's healing characteristics as well, but the earth energy seems more heavy, it has come to do a job, it seems more ruthless in its approach, aggressive maybe.

Thank you for your intentions towards Beatrice, unfortunately the medical profession state that her condition cannot be cured as such, more a case of trying to control the symptoms, and even then she can expect flare ups, which will,put her on the back foot, I will state this is the medical professions diagnosis and not ours, while we should be probably like everyone else around us, worried and panicked, we are not, we both have an inner calmness and feel quite assured that everything will be ok, we understand that all this upheaval has its purpose, we are not worried about jobs, where we will live, any of it, we wait patiently to see where the bits land and then proceed accordingly.

Thank you for your revelations about the colour blue, while a lot of it fits perfectly, some I would have to deny, I do admire people who can pick up meaning and energy from colour, something I have never been capable of.
Again thank you for your reply Lorraine,
Deus tecum.

[mojomojo]

Hi Lorraine,
I know this post has been dead a while, so if you don't see this, it doesn't really matter.
It's just something you said in your post,
You stated you picked up a strong Celtic energy from both Beatrice and myself.
Celtic, pagan, Wiccan, or am I on the wrong track.

That and the blue cloak and hooded figures in the forest, could I have tuned into a Wiccan ritual, it certainly had that kind of air about it
Just curious.

Thanks.

[cyberangel]

Hi Robert,

Yes I did indeed sense a strong Celtic energy from you both, you both have strong (as in powerful healing) energies.

When I first met you Robert, I felt a familiarity although we had never met before, this does happen with me from time to time with different people, but it wasn’t a kindred familiarity, but more an awareness or knowledge of affinity at spirit/soul level if that makes sense.

I suppose I was a bit vague in saying Celtic Energy but by that I meant, that I identified your energy before I knew you, the person. I want to be very careful as not to pigeon-hole you into a specific group, but I also do not want to leave you confused with what I sensed or unwittingly influence with a erroneous energy type either, but you have asked (more or less ) what kind of energy you belong to?

“You stated you picked up a strong Celtic energy from both Beatrice and myself. Celtic, pagan, Wiccan, or am I on the wrong track.”


Yes, I sense all of the above mentioned including Druidism, and while Druidism, Paganism and Wiccan along with other nature religions/beliefs all share similar values, there is a fundamental difference at the core between them all, but if I were to narrow it down then I would have to say, I sense you both have very strong Celtic Shamanic energy, and I can see it developing more and more especially with you Robert, through your posts and your questions but especially in you sharing your experiences with spirit.

Again, I don’t want to pigeonhole you or anyone, but I can only say from my perspective, that is what I would say you / your energy is. Maybe this is a shock or a sudden ‘A-ha’ moment for you, or maybe you already have recognised the Shaman in yourself, or think I am way off, but again I am only sharing what ‘I’ sense from you.

I think it would be worth you just reading up on Shamanism, especially Celtic Shamanism. I will try and find some links or information for you, but it would be better if you found them yourself, as your guides will help direct you to the right channels In the meantime I will leave you with this little nugget of info I found, I don’t want to post the link as I really feel it’s important for you to find your own way, I am merely just guiding you to where I feel you ‘may’ find some answers or connection on your healing journey. And once again, this is only what I feel from you, my interpretation of your energy, only you, and YOU ALONE will know when you have made a true connection to YOUR natural energy source

Blessings to you
Love and Light

“Shamanism
The oldest spiritual tradition of our species, Shamanism is an ancient and ever unfolding wisdom tradition that may be up to 100,000 years old. Our Ancestors discovered a path into divine experience through a natural, mystical connection with Nature. Through this quest of outward connection came a deep, inner awareness of new consciousness. Within these realms, the source of Life itself became known along with the power to work with the energy systems of the Self, other living beings and the Earth.

The Shaman was and is today regarded as a person of power, one who ‘journeys’ back and forth successfully through territories of consciousness to retrieve insight into the true workings of energy, the currency of Spirit. He/She holds the ability to bring harmony to the living energy systems of the individual human, their community, animals, plants and the greater world. These methods of healing, divining and problem-solving through sensitivity to energy and the ability to balance it, have become known as Shamanism.

The practice of Shamanism calls us to awaken our indigenous nature. It is the bedrock of almost all healing and spiritual-religious traditions. However it is not a faith, but a constantly evolving wisdom tradition in which we learn purely from our own, individual and collective, personal experience. Nor is it a religion and it is dogma-free, indeed it supports any existing spiritual practice a person may already hold. The healing shamanic practitioner follows practices that nourish the sacred in the Self and the world and comes to see, know and work with all energy as sacred."

Shamanic Journey



A Shamanic Meditation

[cyberangel]

Hi Robert,

Just looking for other stuff and I guess I was still in Celtic Shamanism mode and came across this very short documentary...so I wanted to share it with you before I forget. Enjoy

[mojomojo]

Lorraine,
Thank you for your quick and again in depth reply.
I didn't have an ah ha moment as such,, I just found myself saying internally, "yeah I know."
I talked before of the practitioner we met in Dublin, I left out, that she asked if I wanted to join her practise, which I thought very odd, no I don't, I know we connected on a soul level, (we just met, I've only started out in this field), she also wanted me to do a shamanism workshop, someone in Dublin runs them, but think they use the Wicklow forests, thanks for putting up the video clips, I haven't looked yet, but definitely will.
The energy connection you speak of, I picked up very strongly from the very beginning, I know how strong your energy is, I can feel it.
I sit here writing this, and a voice keeps saying, you already knew, my mind now is playing rewind, I see myself as a kid, sitting alone with an upturned bucket and stick, drumming away, the fascination with grave yards, reaper and lonely boatman, walking through forests, knowing they were alive, knowing they were aware of my presence.
The medium telling my wife, your husband works between the realms, a second telling me " you are a soul rescuer, you do it now at night ".
Might explain my interest in the under world and the darker side of spirituality, also explains some dreams I remember.
The constant visits of earth bound souls (the heavier entities),
Why have I ignored what is all around me.


A thought just occurred, the blue cloak hooded vision, I was working on Beatrice at the time,
She is very much a people person, and would always strive to belong, she was getting a load of grief in work and a certain circle were trying to push her out.
If I had have stayed with the vision, I believe I would have seen her face.
Lorraine, I'am married to a witch, (it just ain't right, what women keep under wraps, until after the ceremony).

Sorry Lorraine, I have rabbity'd on a bit, but let me leave you with this, a classic case of denial, this came from a meditation at the medium circle a while back.
I was standing on a beach, there to meet my spirit guide.
But there were many, they greeted me like a family member, joyous laughter and shouting, it felt like teenage years, to the left someone charged up the beach on horseback, it struck me the setting was not right, Indians on a beach, why were there so many, I came to meet my spirit guide.
To the right lay a vast camp of tepee's, smoke rose from many, there was great activity, many people, we clowned around laughing with boisterous play, there was a feeling of great joy and happiness. Just then at the edge of camp, my eyes caught three men walking, one behind the other, I couldn't take my eyes off them, it felt like no one else could see them, the noise and activity carried on. They dressed different, the wore black fur, two feathers in their head pointed down, they neither looked left or right, nobody seemed to be aware of them.
I could not take my eyes away from them, the one at the back stopped, his head turned, his eyes caught mine, I felt paralysed, his death like gaze had no emotion, his focus, to the extreme, he broke his gaze, I felt I had been released, I watched them walking, till they were gone. Nobody seemed to see them.

Again, thank you very much for your reply, Lorraine.
I will continue with reiki, but will more than likely look into the other some more and see what it brings.
Thank you.