mojomojo
Go deep enough, and there is a bedrock of truth, however hard.
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Post by mojomojo on Jan 11, 2015 13:54:47 GMT
Back in the sixties there was the possible discovery of what was believed to be Noah's Ark on mount Ararat in Turkey. I believe an archaeological dig was started, but for some reason came to a premature end over difficulties with the Turkish officials.
Another dig was started by an individual, trying to back the expedition himself, which also came to a premature end. They did establish that the measurements were in keeping with the Biblical accounts in cubits. Why was such a world changing find never brought to confirmation? Did politics come to rule? Is proof of GOD, too much for the world under its present management?
If the proof was confirmed, what does it mean, That there was a great flood, that GOD, did cleanse the earth of evil, or was it an act of nature, as in Planet X's magnitudual pull on the earth, as it's orbit caused the earths axis to shift, repositioning where the land masses and oceans lay, and even so, was it GOD's hand.
Do we believe that a GOD of love, is capable of such, if his covenant is not kept, history does seem to support this, do we experience this on a personal level if we do not keep our part of the deal.
Is that part of the free will, to make a covenant with GOD or not, but once in, you must play your part, or reap the rewards or not. To make GOD a integral part of your life and live his way, or to go it alone.
Robert.
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Post by aceofcups on Jan 11, 2015 19:29:03 GMT
This is only part of a long article gleamed from seers of Esoteric understanding of Earth's and Humanity's evolution by those who able to glimpse clairvoyantly into past history. I am just posting it here because if gives one a different viewpoint on these matters.
"Flood Myths of the World: Riddles of the Past By John Van Mater, Jr.
Flood stories are found in every corner of the planet, and many riddles are connected with them. They often refer to giants or ancient humanities, divine incarnations -- even monsters, which point back to prehistory.* They embody actual geologic and historic events as well as describing the divine birth of universes and the pre-cosmic stirrings of worlds. Such "myths" can't be taken only literally, for their creators masterfully incorporated in them many levels of meaning: cosmic, astronomical, spiritual, psychological, scientific, historical, and ethical, among others.
The esoteric sciences describe an inner spiritual continuity of being, combined with catastrophism. H. P. Blavatsky's Secret Doctrine, which ties together many sources of ancient wisdom and history, refers to certain mythological sayings that "to the occultist . . . divulge two facts: (a) that the ancients knew as well, and better, perhaps, than the moderns do, astronomy, geognosy and cosmography in general; and (b) that the globe and its behavior have altered more than once since the primitive state of things"
Many deluges appear in traditions worldwide. The first is cosmic, the rest are terrestrial. The mother of all floods refers to the birth of the cosmos and the gods, to the waters of space which become the life- and death-giving waters of earth. Ancient spiritual traditions view all things -- atoms, planets, solar systems, and universes -- as living beings, divine in essence, the many sparks of one cosmic fire. Over immense periods of time there is a constant ebb and flow of the various waves of universal and planetary life, with karma as the divine harmony of the underlying absolute consciousness.
Interpreting the biblical flood story, Blavatsky speaks of Noah, floating on the waters, in his ark; the latter being the emblem of the argha, or moon, the feminine principle; Noah is the "spirit" falling into matter. We find him as soon as he descends upon the earth, planting a vineyard, drinking of the wine, and getting drunk on it; i.e., the pure spirit becoming intoxicated as soon as it is finally imprisoned in matter. The seventh chapter of Genesis is but another version of the first. -- Isis Unveiled 2:423
Taking this and other more ancient stories, we can see that the ark or vessel floating on the abyss of waters often signifies the female generative power, carrying the germ of nature and mankind. Mystically the divine spirit of life, like Noah, emerges from chaos, a Greek term for this unfathomable, unknowable essence. In a Hindu allegory Vishnu in the form of a fish guides the ark of Vaivasvata Manu across the flood waters. Manu is accompanied by seven rishis or "sages," who may stand for man and the seven aspects of his being, the seven great human or terrestrial cycles, the seven planes of existence, as well as the seven solar gods. Xisuthrus, the Mesopotamian Noah, lands his boat on an Armenian mountain and is taken up alive into heaven to dwell with the gods. The Greek Deucalion is saved from the flood in a boat that lands on Mt. Parnassus, and with his wife repopulates the earth by throwing stones behind them. The Incas have their version of the flood, with a couple saved in a huge boat, and many other peoples of the Americas have their own deluge stories.
In considering the figures in creation and flood myths, we must remember that they are part of a universal concept of builders and architects of worlds. We see this with the titans and kabiri of Greece and Asia Minor, the Hindu prajapatis, manus, and pitris, and the Hebrew elohim. They are the progenitors of both mankind and the lower kingdoms of nature, which they guide and protect from beginning to end of vast cycles. Their names are generic; for example, Noah may be identified with the kabiri or with spirit. Manu could represent a Prometheus or lightbringer, or an Atlantean giant -- the spiritual or physical titans who survived world deluges.
What do these gods have to do with floods or other cataclysms affecting global changes of earth and her humanities? Divine consciousness is the impersonal karmic agency, of which the gods form a collective part. They are the informing wisdom in the solar system, the central heart and fount of life. The consciousness or "gods" behind what the ancients called the seven sacred planets transmit to earth the cosmic intelligences that shape the evolution and destiny of our planet and all on it. We can look at cycles in the highest cosmic sense as being the habits of the gods. They can be likened to our body's automatic physiology, but on a transcendentally higher level. These eternal cycles are tied to patterns of previous activity: nothing occurs by chance. Our humanity and the kingdoms of nature, even Gaia, are sustained and protected by the intelligent guidance of gods.
The forces of consciousness behind evolution result in critical changes inwardly, various changes outwardly, some catastrophic. This process of natural imbalances set in motion by life, following the inherent cyclic rhythms of nature, means constant change. There are as many types of cycles connected with Gaia as there are with ourselves; and there is always a destructive aspect to regeneration as an essential part of creativity. The resulting changes occur within the larger harmonious operations of divine consciousness restoring balance. Awesome catastrophes of fire and water must have been impressed upon the human racial memory. These cataclysms were experienced and recorded by an intelligent humanity over many millions of years, for the antiquity of mankind is far greater than is now generally believed. Initiates are said to have kept records of time cycles marking the changes that took place in evolution throughout the existence of self-conscious mankind. The Hindus, Egyptians, Babylonians, Mayas, and many other peoples record numerous large and intricate time cycles which are often related to great changes in certain astronomical points, the polar motion of the earth, or to racial and cosmic time periods. The key figures in most cases, however, remain hidden.
One large cycle found in these spiritual allegories involves great changes in the qualities and properties of matter. Our planet has periods of sleep or quietude between active periods. After the rest period there is a descending arc of spirit immersing itself in a flood of material forms. As theosophic tradition explains, the earth was first ethereal, astral, and gaseous before it became rocky and solid. At the densest midpoint of materiality a temporary equilibrium occurs, followed by an ascending arc of consciousness etherealizing matter.
This cycle applies to humanity as well. When the seeds of life flowed out of the ``ark'' in the beginning of this globe's current period of activity, the lower kingdoms of nature materialized and an ethereal mankind eventually took material form. Blavatsky termed the first truly physical humanity the Lemurians. The next and most physical humanity, sometimes called Atlanteans, existed at the midpoint of the present earth cycle. Despite their gigantic size, great intellect, and materially brilliant civilizations, many are said to have misused their powers of mind as well as the occult knowledge inherited from the previous humanity. Their eventual destruction by water is still remembered today, as Blavatsky reminds us:
Noah's Deluge is astronomical and allegorical, but it is not mythical, for the story is based upon the same archaic tradition of men -- or rather of nations -- which were saved during the cataclysms, in canoes, arks, and ships. No one would presume to say that the Chaldean Xisuthrus, the Hindu Vaivasvata, the Chinese Peirun -- the "beloved of the gods," who rescued him from the flood in a canoe -- or the Swedish Bergelmir, for whom the gods did the same in the north, are all identical as a personage. But their legends have all sprung from the catastrophe which involved both the continent and the island of Atlantis. -- The Secret Doctrine 2:774 "
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