mojomojo
Go deep enough, and there is a bedrock of truth, however hard.
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Post by mojomojo on Jan 6, 2015 18:37:07 GMT
There are many ceremonial rites used by different religions throughout the world, some are common to many, fasting and breathing exercises.
Fasting, used by many religions and cultures, catholic, Muslim, Hindus, Buddhism and the Native American Indian. Though it is apparent of the benefits of fasting, as in detoxing the body, what is the purpose when taken to extremes. Our Lord fasted for forty days and forty nights, I would imagine this puts one on the brink of life and death. For what purpose? Does pushing the body to the brink of death cause all to fall away leaving total contact with the divine, do we literally have to die while alive?
Pranayama, breathing exercises, although mainly used in Yoga, Tai chi, and Shaolin priests with qigong. Kriya yoga is an eight fold path, part of that path is pranayama, it starts off with basic breathing exercises, which increase with difficulty as the course progresses over its three year period. The aim, seems to be able to handle less air, slowing the bodies functions. I have only ever tried the very basic exercises and found them quite powerful, my first ever attempt, I don't mean to offend anyone but this is the only way I can describe it, it was like an orgasm was running through the entire body, it was incredible, I have yet to be able to repeat the experience, but if the basic's can accomplish that, what happens with the last breathing exercise, three years down the line. Again, are we pushing the body to the brink, to that same platform, to contact spirit.
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Post by tribunalofmercy on Jan 9, 2015 18:39:08 GMT
Robert, I thought about this yesterday and posed some questions on chat to see what people thought about various things...one thing I am sure of, is that the various forms of Reaching for the Divine Connection have proved useful to various people, for various reasons and with various Results. Craig Holliday talked a bit about this in the interview he did on ace's video "Buddha at the Gas Pump" (spiritual videos library/members videos)...in his words, he said that the time he had spent Reaching for a divine connection through chants, meditation, breathing, fasting and so forth ultimately made him more Pliable to an actual Connection with God; it kept him open, fluid, receptive to that time when he actually Did experience a connection that made all the other ways suddenly seem "irrelevant" - it makes sense to me, but then I Know what he is getting at. These ways are our Human logic and they Do have both place and purpose, in my opinion...on the other end of things, when we take all-things-Divine-and-connected for Granted and stop Reaching with all of our Own abilities to keep it open, to show our devotion and willingness to Experience it, we move - as someone tried to teach me the other day - from atma into the maya of jiva, becoming polluted with Earthly things so that we must strive that much Harder to keep 'pure'. I expressed it yesterday as kind of a 'cart-before-horse' thing, and I have written about this before; it's just Hard to understand what Loving God is about, unless we have Experienced it. When we discover the Love of God/Divine then we start Wanting to do all those things that Express our love: prayer, chanting, meditation, fasting, Loving God and Others for sheer Joy of knowing that kind of Love... God breathes in and out, Robert...things move in Two ways, and I think sometimes we experience an Uphill Struggle in one direction, while there is more of a Downhill Run of Exhuberance when we get there and start the other side If that makes eense. Get pranayama; get meditation, get fasting; DESIRE the connection of LOVE. Kind of like saying, "Get knowledge; Desire Wisdom"....see?
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