Another meditation question.

[mojomojo]

Hi all, had another of those, what the hell was that, moments while meditating.
Not sure if I fell asleep while meditating or not, but on coming back down, it's like I was interrupted, no, slightly startled, by a voice speaking loudly in a foreign tongue, not sure what language, but it was hard and strong, the only comparison I can give is it sounded, Arabic.
Anyone, ever had something similar.
Secondly, what is it with the head pressure, I used to get it around the third eye, but now experience it all over my head, it's like my brain is swelling, 'am I developing a big head, any jokes, comments or help gladly appreciated,
many thanks,
Robert.

[aceofcups]

HI Robert..

I always have a swell time while meditating... just not physical...lol


peace
aceofcups

[tribunalofmercy]

Why, Mister Robert....

I do believe you are in the process of Expanding (alphabet: Awaken...Expand...InCredible)



*bounces* hahahahaha

[mojomojo]

Is that all you got people, come on.



At least it helps me keep my feet on the floor, just.

[tribunalofmercy]

Seriously I'm just imagining what you will think when you get voices loudly saying "Namaste" to you as you wake up in the mornings...I suppose I must tread lightly, but I do know a Number of people in my life who are now, or currently have been, going through the head experiences. In my "opinion" only, it is generally Normal. (yes, I've been there)

If you are worried it is Not spiritual, have it checked out by a doctor! If you get voices telling you things that are obviously Not of Love, then ask yourself: Are these voices I want to Keep Listening To?'

Otherwise, my friend? Welcome to the Ride

[mojomojo]

Hi all , thank you all for your helpful replies, I would just like you all to know, I now have the situation under control, I have taken two aspirin, wear ear plugs 24/7, have tied a rope around my head , to stop it expanding any further, and fixed the other end to the heaviest object in my humble abode, which is the banana box, I use as a table, it seems to be keeping me grounded for the moment, but I might have to add the chair, another banana box, for extra weight. My wife has just entered the premises, and instantly died of a heart attack, on account of the sight before her, but I can only see improvement from here on, once again, many thanks.

[sparklekaz]

Hi Robert,

Here is my two penneth worth..

While in the altered state of deep meditation you may be becoming open and receptive to spirit interaction. The voice you heard may be your spirit guide or a spirit introducing themselves to you. The words you heard, try and write it down if you can remember it. Even if it's just phonetically. You may if you do a google search find the the nearest sounding language to it and if your lucky a rough translation. I would suggest though that when you are meditating remember to ground and protect yourself. So that if you are becoming more mediumistic or developing mediumistically. That only spirit of the highest vibration come near.

The pressure you are feeling is connected to the brow and crown chakra's becoming open. And you feeling the energy being drawn down or building up in those areas. Try visualizing your auric field as a bubble in which you are incased. If there is pressure in certain area's it needs to be released. Visualize your aura as a balloon that needs blowing up. In your minds eye imagine you blowing it up and it expanding upwards and outwards. Blow it up till it fills the room and beyond. You should feel the pressure relieved. You will also feel lighter and refreshed. Another tip, is to apply a cooled piece of quartz crystal (pop it in the fridge) - particularly clear quartz to any area's that feel painful and tight. By gently rubbing the crystal accross any affected areas.

I hope this helps.

Love and light
Kaz

[mojomojo]

Hi Kaz, thank you very much, for your reply, it was very helpful, if I'am not mistaken, you are a reiki master, can I ask what drew you to healing, or was it something you just decided to do,
Many thanks,
Robert.

[donq]

Hi Robert,

All of our dear friends already gave you very good answers, I hardly have anything to add.
Anyway, there are some versions to see this same reality:

1. Schizophrenic, “Help me! There's a voice in my head; it's a Devil’s talking!”
2. Spiritual person, “This is my spiritual guide!” And this voice leads him/her to go further and further onto his/her spiritual path. Jung also had his inner spiritual guide like this; an old man.
3. Mindfulness person, “Hmm… This can either be a good thought that leads to heaven OR a bad thought that leads to hell. I should not trust neither of them. Detach them all; safety first!”
4. Neurologist, “Sure, there’s something wrong with the brain! CAT scan will tell everything.”
5. Psychiatrist, “It’s just a complex of unconscious mind!”

As for 5, it reminds me of this joke (or not?) :

"The practice of psychology is like trying to find a black cat in a pitch black room. The practice of psychiatry is like trying to find a black cat in a pitch dark room that isn't there." (and found it!) lol

Ok, a bit more serious now.

As I have suffered from chronic pain for almost 30 years, this is what I’ve learnt from it is:

1. Try to heal yourself on physical level first. Whether trying modern medicine (taking some aspirin etc.) or alternative/holistic medicine (massage, acupressure, drinking tea herb etc.) or spiritual healing (which someone else is needed to help you). As mind and body are one, as a whole, if you body feel better, so does you mind. And vice versa.
2. If, and only if 1. didn’t work, then, you have no other choice but go further on advance level, using mind to heal the mind. This is pure spiritual work. As Karen (Kaz) already suggested, was it about your “chakra” or about your spiritual guide tried to talk to you (as Mary Anne suggested) or as Ace gave you a good hint, you and you only could determine this. And if you found what it is, then, your condition will be better and better next time until it's gone.

P.S. Yes, I also had the same experience, almost 30 years ago. I didn’t trust that voice as I was kind of mindfulness (practice) person. :-)

[mojomojo]

Hi Donq, thanks once again, for your unique and helpful reply,
Many thanks,
Robert.

[sparklekaz]

Hi Robert,

I can honestly say that I was always drawn to healing/helping others. As a very young child I was very sensitive to the emotional state of those around me. Would feel an overwhelming empathy, which as an adult looking back, I can see was way out of proportion to what a child should feel or be aware of in others. After all as children we are very much 'in the moment' focused on what we are doing, not so much what others are doing. I felt responsible for others and it made no sense to me that I should feel that way. I was the child, people were mean't to take care of me were they not! It is only as I look back, do I understand how unusual this was. The negative side of this was that I was an overly sensitive and anxious child. I believe now that a lot of the anxiety I was feeling was that of those around me rather than my own. But this I did not understand at the time. Now I understand I was born extremely empathic.

On some level I knew that I could help, though did not understand how. As a child I was the listener the comforter. Even adults would tell me their worries. A lot for young shoulders, but somehow it felt natural. Though on reflection it did not help my anxiety levels much. I remember being fascinated by the bible stories of Jesus healing the sick through touch. I did not for a minute think that I could do the same, as that would be to put myself on the same level. But as I grew older, I came to learn about the healing ministery 'the laying on of hands'. In my early twenties I joined a healing group connected to the church I belonged to in a rural village in Mid Wales. This group was more about self healing through self growth and sharing with other's. It was not a bible study group, it was more based on guided meditations, discussing spiritual topics and dreams, as a way of connecting with our higher selves. We also worked with the Kaballah and archetypes. Much of it was very much like this group has evolved to be.

We did do some prayer healing sessions and I learned about connecting with the earth energy which is all around us. I have always been very sensitive to changes in the weather and had an affinity for the animal and natural world. Later on I took part in a self awareness workshop. We were asked if any of us had dowsed before and did we want to try it. I hadn't and was eager to try. I was very receptive to it, but found using dowsing rods gave me a feeling of pressure bearing down on my head, which affected my balance slightly and caused some nausea. The healer who was leading the workshop told me it was because I was very sensitive to the energy. The rods act as an amplifier. Which he said I didnt need. Just use your hands he said. He blindfolded me and told me to find the underground water pipes in the room we were working in. It was a converted school house, and the room was a big one. I found the water pipes easily by feeling for the change in the energy. You ask in your mind for what you are searching for. And as you connect with energy your hands tingle. When you 'find' what you are searching for the energy tingling becomes stronger and it's as if you are getting mild electrical shocks. When I am feeling for water and find it, my hands feel cold and it's as if I am dipping my finger tips into something cold and wet. The teacher told me I could use the same ability to feel/find any energy source and inbalances/problems/disease in the human body. I asked if I could feel these things, can I influence them, as in improve or heal. He told me I could by learning to tap into the universal healing energy.

After that I went around 'feeling' everything. Drove my family and friends mad by asking if I could 'feel' their energy. lol I lived in a rural area, and knew very few other people who were into healing and energy work. So I hit the books. I learnt about the aura, the chakra's and the power of visualization and intent. One author in particular was extremely helpful. A lady called Betty Shine who was a medium and healer. She is dead now bless her, but her books were a mine of information and advice. I taught myself to connect to the energy source and practiced using colours for focus. I also would use crystals, another passion of mine for help and amplification. This continued for about 5 years, until I read about Reiki. I found a lot of similarities in reiki to what I was doing. But it had the spiritual ethos I was looking for. I was raised a roman catholic and had lapsed. I found it restrictive and inclusive. I was always fascinated and open to the beliefs of others. Particularly Buddhism. I loved their teachings on self responsibility and understanding. I might have stopped being 'religious', but still had a strong belief in God. And so would always use prayer for protection, and for asking to be used as a channel for healing. I became a Reiki healer in 2004 doing my first attunement. The second I did a year later, and finally attaining my Master level in 2012.

You said Robert that when you did your level 1 attunement that it made you ill. It sounds to me as if you had a 'healing crisis'. You should have been supported by your Reiki Master. Did you practice self healing every day? It sounds to me as if you are very sensitive to energy, but need to focus on your self healing. Often those who are drawn to healing are very empathic and have gone through a lot of issues of their own. The wonderful part about the healing journey is that as we grow as healers, we grow as people on all levels. Phyiscally, emotionally and spiritually. We heal ourselves. Just go with what feels right for you. Read, talk to others who are genuinely intersted in healing. Explore all the different healing modalities that are out there, till you find what feels right for you. You will know it. It is not all 'love and light'. Making a committment to your spiritual path, will throw up all kinds of things to test and teach us. Trust in yourself, be guided by that light within you that is drawing you forward. I can promise you that you will never regret it, and it will never be boring.

I hope I haven't rambled on too much. Healing and self growth is a passion of mine. Once I start, I don't shut up. lol Feel free to ask any questions you like. I hope this helps.

Love and light
Kaz

[mojomojo]

Hi Kaz, thank you for your brilliant reply, your passion does indeed come across, so you would agree with I disagreeumption that all healers are drawn in some way or another.
Having not felt any pull in that direction, I can not understand, what these people are telling my wife, the fact that it has happened three times leaves me slightly confused.
I'am sure, what ever is to manifest, will do so in due time, once again thank you for your reply,
Robert.

[rosesrblu111]

Hi Robert,

what kind of meditation do you practice? and how long do you meditate?

I learned a few months ago Transcendental Meditation and I meditate 20 minutes twice a day. I feel the good results when I do meditate.

[mojomojo]

Hi, my meditation is nothing more than emptying the mind, but I seem to travel a lot with this, and have had some wonderful experiences, lately, I spend two sessions a day, usually 45 mins a session, I have been told this is quite a lot, so I didn't bother revealing how long I used to do, each to their own I guess. Yeah, the after effects are enormous, the feeling of contentment, inner peace, just plain happy I guess. My problems start when I don't meditate, I have to have time out with spirit, or I get very, disconnected, grumpy, easily irritated, which is strange, cause I just finished this book, and it gave those exact same symptoms for a creative artist, who was not doing what he was meant to be. Creative energy comes from spirit through the person on to the canvas, or page or sculptor or what ever. But seemingly if it is not been used, it creates these same symptoms, disconnected again.
Which throws up another question, how many of you people are artists, poets, writers, etc..........
Robert.

[cyberangel]

Hi Robert,

I personally think that whatever works for one is fine so long as it does have any negative impacts on your life...ie. procrastinating. I think many of us here are creative to some degree...and in my case I always use this saying "I am a person of many talents...but master of none" My creativity is flowing these days and I am very busy crocheting different projects for people. I taught myself to crochet via internet and youtube and I am teaching myself to read and write patterns now. I also draw/paint as well as just general arts and crafts. I make wedding invitations along with other printed stationary. I have my own small print and design local business which keeps me occupied. I have penned many poems throughout my life from early teens to present...never put to print but share them freely with friends and family. I dont so much write except for here on the forum and only when I feel I can contribute to a post/thread. I love walking the beach and picking shells and stones...I make wind chimes with the shells and I engrave little angels onto the stones which I had out to people who may need an Angel that day Anyway my friend, I have always been creative long before I meditated but meditation can inspire one for sure. I look forward to hopefully see or hear about your creative passions.

Love and Light

[mojomojo]

Hi Lorraine, I believe happy birthday is due, don't tell me you live near a beach, I used to walk the beach with my dogs at weekends, two gorgeous dogs, one looked like a very muscular black spaniel, they had a bit of bull terrier in them, the other looked pretty much like a bull terrier, but they were the most sensitive, loyal, good natured dogs I ever had, it broke my heart to give them up, when we both became unemployed in the recession, and had to relocate to London, your mention of the beach, brought it all back.
I used to drive artic trucks for a living, and detested it, 18 hours a day was normal, sometimes more, I was glad when the recession finished it, and swore never to go back, not mentioning the damage it had done to my back. In London I had to retrain, took ages to figure out what to do, so now I'am a bit spoilt, working from home, I repair and restore antique clocks, not really art as such, but good job satisfaction, sometimes it's good, sometimes not so, to take it further, I have to do a degree, three years in uni. Used to do a lot of sketching, painting oils, was quite good at sketching, didn't give the oils long enough, but good oil painting really captures me, also love to write, sometimes poems spiral down to me, I've never kept any of them, but I love writing about spirituality, not saying I'm any good at it, but it's always at the back of my mind, to write a book, but I don't think, I've anything new to add to what's already been wrote, having said that, all the good stuff comes spiralling down from spirit, and spirit will always have something to say, so you never know, or maybe I'll just keep putting up threads here.
Talk to you later, Lorraine,
Robert.

[cyberangel]

Hi Robert

I have only just seen your above comment so please forgive my delayed reply I really liked what you wrote and related to some. My Dad God rest him also drove for years big artic trucks and lowloaders...I was only very young the first time dad brought my brother and I in the truck I loved it. I loved the hight of the cab and the huge seats and I can still see now my feet just barely dangling over the edge of the seat. I remember sounds...the hissing of the brakes...the hydrolics...and how the cab shook when dad turned on the engine. The steering wheel was so big and I was mesmerised by the wipers as they didnt move like the ones on our car. I remember dad whistling while driving and honking and flashing the lights at other drivers he knew as a way of speaking to each other. I would love looking out of the side window and getting a quick glimpse into the cars below. I felt so safe and secure. When dad stopped for a pickup or dropoff...my brother and I explored. We couldn't believe we found a bed behind a curtain and couldn't wait to 'inform' dad on his return lol. Ah thank you Robert for reminding me of some wonderful happy memories.

I was sad to hear about your heartbreak of having to give up your beautiful dogs. Sometimes life is so difficult and hands us choices that are nearly impossible to make but yet we are forced to make them anyway

Something you said also in your post touched my heart and I wrote a poem. Its straight out if my head so its rough and ready...but sometimes the roughness of something is more real than the smoothed and polished pieces...dont you think?

Anyway here it is and I hope you like or can relate to it. Love and light my friend

The oil painting

There you sit on a canvas bed
Displaying for all to admire
But I see you and I can feel you
Reaching out with each stroke but to suddenly change direction like the wind
The artist hand made the mark
But you...you take form before the eyes...to those who truly look.
Layer upon layer
Does anyone notice your foundations I wonder?
How each colour is not simply placed onto the painting but is delicately woven through
The strength of your beauty is not whats on the canvas but what reaches out and touches the heart.

[mojomojo]

I just kept seeing, a sketch of our Lord, appearing and receding, through the painted canvas, like the shroud of Turin, very touching.
Robert.