Carl Jung's Secret Book

[donq]

Hi everyone,

I have this book of Jung (among many books by him) but have just found its video on the internet and would like to share it with you. Please understand that I just think it’s a good spiritual work to share. That’s all.

The following I found on some website (could not recall where) which will give you and idea about this book.

Carl Jung's Secret Book

Carl Jung was a giant in the dawn of the age of psychoanalysis. A student of Freud who broke with Freud. Champion of the individual spiritual quest as doorway to the universal.
In midlife, he looked for his own soul and found nothing. Dug deeper, for years, late at night, recording wild visions: gods and demons, winged snakes and crocodiles. Found his soul’s footing, but feared he’d be called insane.
Jung said his “red book,” in which he recorded his visions, was the base of everything else he did. But it was locked away for years in a Swiss vault. Now it’s out. (2009)

It’s a bit long video (around 18 minutes) but it’s wroth watching. Its pictures are beautiful and its meaning is great. :-)

Jung, "The Way of What is to Come" (1915) from Liber Primus.
Illustrations by Jung.
Music from Lemminkainen by Sibelius.
Video from vimeo (video sharing)



Here’s some of its paragraphs:

The spirit of the depths took my understanding and all my knowledge and placed them at the service of the inexplicable and the paradoxical. He robbed me of speech and writing for everything that was not in his service, namely the melting together of sense and nonsense, which produces the supreme meaning.
But the supreme meaning is the path, the way and the bridge to what is to come…
The supreme meaning is not a meaning and not an absurdity, it is image and force in one, magnificence and force together. The supreme meaning is the beginning and the end. It is the bridge of going across and fulfillment…
The shadow is nonsense. It lacks force and has no continued existence through itself. But nonsense is the inseparable and undying brother of the supreme meaning.
Like plants, so men also grow, some in the light, others in the shadows.
There are many who need the shadows and not the light…The supreme meaning is great and small it is as wide as the space of the starry Heaven and as narrow as the cell of the living body.

[sparklekaz]

Thanks for sharing this Monty. I have long been a fan of Carl Jung and use his work a lot as part of my dream interpretation box of tools.

I have a book of his called 'she' in which he talks at great length about the Anima/Animus and archetypes. Intriguing, powerful and very insightful. Well worth a read, for those who are interested and are admirers of Jung's work.

The passages you've shared from his book is beautiful and moving. I know from other writings of his that I've read that he really dives into his own psyche and soul and poured his findings into his work. I'm intrigued by his little red book, and would love to read more of his words and experiences. So I shall keep an eye out for it.

Some of my favourite quotes from Carl Jung, and mainly because as a man who has fully explored his darker or shadow side, but saw it as something to understand rather than disown, to be whole and emotionally healthy.

"What if I should discover that the poorest of the beggars and the most impudent of offenders are all within me; and that I stand in need of the alms of my own kindness, that I, myself, am the enemy who must be loved -- what then?”

A man who has not passed through the inferno of his passions has never overcome them. As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being. Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.” This one makes me think of George's (Gruntal) posts.

"There is a thinking in primordial images, in symbols which are older than the historical man, which are inborn in him from the earliest times, eternally living, outlasting all generations, still make up the groundwork of the human psyche. It is only possible to live the fullest life when we are in harmony with these symbols; wisdom is a return to them.” I love this very much as he talks of the universal language of symbols that is as old as time and goes back in further in terms of our divine origins. That is my belief anyway.

Love and light
Kaz

[donq]

Hi Karen,

"There is a thinking in primordial images, in symbols which are older than the historical man, which are inborn in him from the earliest times, eternally living, outlasting all generations, still make up the groundwork of the human psyche. It is only possible to live the fullest life when we are in harmony with these symbols; wisdom is a return to them.”
Yes, I love that, too.


And, Hahaha, ok. When it comes to a friend, I’m kind of having a soft-hearted (don’t know if it’s the right word here or not, I mean in a submissive way.)

So, here it is, Jung’s Red Book (Liber Novus).

free.mailbigfile.com/57ca7ed261f2e63692a18ed14ed94376/listFiles.php

It’s quite a large (pdf) file (about 146 MB) because it contains many beautiful pictures. And don’t be disheartened about Jung’s handwriting (which we cannot read), the normal English fonts will start at the page 222 (of 400 pages).
I have been testing this site I uploaded it for a while, as USB port on my notebook is broken, and I have had to find a way to back up my large files on my computer. It’s a clean site.
Though it took me for a while to upload this file (because my internet’s speed is only 100 Mbps but I already tried to download it myself, to test it, it took me only 4 minutes.
You and anyone can download it. It will be available there for the next 10 days.
Enjoy! :-)

P.S. Again, I have to defend myself a little bit here. This book is already (or should have been) in the public domain (as Jung passed away more than 50 years.)

P.P.S. I also have about 30 ebooks of (and on) Rumi (about 121 MB, all in pdf, only 1 epub). No, no, I haven’t read all of them yet. But if you (or anyone) are interested, I’ll upload it for you to download them later (but I have to zip them all first.) As I’ve said above, I’m kind of having a soft-hearted about this. lol.

[donq]

forgot to say that, it's time for me to turn in now.
So, goodnight.

[cyberangel]

Thank you Monty for sharing this on Carl Jung. I did try and watch the youtube clip but because his works is unknown to me I found myself lost. But I hope to try again and watch it and maybe look up some of his work or even better download the pdf you very kindly uploaded for us. I have recently got to know some of Rumi's writings and I have to say, I feel more a connection to Rumi than to Jung, at the moment anyway. As I have said, I have a very simple mind and that leads me to either soak up the information or to run a mile, and Jung just made me run a mile LOL. But that doesn't mean I have given up, it just means I have to make some room in my consciousness for Jung to seep into I would very much appreciate the upload of Rumi's writings as I am sure many here would. So when you have time I would most enjoy it I'm sure. Once again thank you Monty, as least Karen can appreciate Jung with you. It is much better when you can share your interests with someone who also appreciates his work. Thank you once again.

Love and Light (sleep well my friend and sweet dreams)

[sparklekaz]

I adore Rumi too Lorraine, and I can see that the 'poet' in you, would love his words. His style is passionate and romantic and I love how he speaks of his relationship with God 'The Beloved' almost in terms of a love affair, as intense as any human relationship. But then why am I surprised, for many their connection to God goes beyond anything an earthly love can give them. It's a whole different plateau isn't it. I love Hafiz and Kahlil Gibran for the same reasons.

I really enjoy reading Jung, because he seems to understand the human psyche, the complicated relationship we have with ourselves. As we try so hard to understand ourselves, our compulsions, and how we are led around by our emotions. He sees human beings as suffering because of their lack of understanding of what makes them tick. That they would rather mentally cut off parts of themselves, that they perceive as being sinful, lustful or egotistical, rather then face it and try to understand it. He believes that without the shadow side we are not whole. That what is needed is not to rid ourselves of it, but bring it into the light through understanding it.

"There is no coming to consciousness without pain. People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own Soul. One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious.”

Love and light
Kaz

[sparklekaz]

Thank you so much Monty for the pdf link. I've downloaded it and am currently working my way down it. I've got to page 18 and apart from the lengthy foreword that is written in English, so far, it's all in Jung's native tongue. I'm taking it on faith, I'll get to the english version of it further in.

I'm so glad you were feeling generous and are such a good friend to us all.

Sleep well. Don't forget to share any dreams you have.

Love and light
Kaz

[cyberangel]

Aug 17, 2014 18:03:00 GMT sparklekaz said:

I adore Rumi too Lorraine, and I can see that the 'poet' in you, would love his words. His style is passionate and romantic and I love how he speaks of his relationship with God 'The Beloved' almost in terms of a love affair, as intense as any human relationship. But then why am I surprised, for many their connection to God goes beyond anything an earthly love can give them. It's a whole different plateau isn't it. I love Hafiz and Kahlil Gibran for the same reasons.

"There is no coming to consciousness without pain. People will do anything, no matter how absurd, in order to avoid facing their own Soul. One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious.”

Love and light
Kaz

Oh Karen, what a very appropriate quote you quoted there...it feel's very fitting to me on where I am now at the moment. Thank you

If I may also add a quote by Rumi, which I also love and hopefully one day will master these wise words: 

"I have been a seeker and I still am, but I stopped asking the books and the stars. I started listening to the teaching of my Soul"

I have not long ago read Kahil's 'The Prophet' which certain passages sent shivers through me...beautiful, touching, pure and deep. Like this on Marriage....

"You were born together, and together you shall be forevermore.
You shall be together when white wings of death scatter your days.
Aye, you shall be together even in the silent memory of God.
But let there be spaces in your togetherness,
And let the winds of the heavens dance between you.
Love one another but make not a bond of love:
Let it rather be a moving sea between the shores of your souls.
Fill each other's cup but drink not from one cup.
Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be alone,
Even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver with the same music.
Give your hearts, but not into each other's keeping.
For only the hand of Life can contain your hearts.
And stand together, yet not too near together:
For the pillars of the temple stand apart,
And the oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other's shadow."

Reading his words make me fall in love over and over and I also must share this verse on Children:

"Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you, yet they belong not to you.
You may give them your love but not your thoughts.
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.
You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, and He bends you with His might that His arrows may go swift and far. Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as he loves the arrow that flies, so He loves also the bow that is stable."

There are so many I would love to share but I would end up sharing the entire book at this rate...Kahil's 'The Prophet' is the first book I have read of his and I loved it.  If anyone has not read it, please do so and for even more feeling to his writing, if that was even possible, I have included a youtube clip of some beautiful music to listen to while reading Kahil or anyone's poetry for that matter.

Love and Light

[sparklekaz]

Hi Lorraine,

You've quoted my two most favourite poems by Kahlil Gibran. I'm in awe of his ability to express with such depth and feeling. That is why I love words so much, and why I feel so sad sometimes that there are so many people in the world who cannot read. I was shocked recently to read this quote “If you can read this message, you are more fortunate than over 2 billion people in the world who cannot or are not allowed to read”.

Something I have always wanted to do is to teach or help children and adults who cannot read. I'm probably too old or not qualified enough to this. But it is a dream that I throw out into the universe, and hope one day it might come true. For me to be able to do this would be a priceless gift.

Love and light
Kaz

[cyberangel]

Oh Karen, that is very sad to learn that so much of what we take for granted others are left wanting, it is a hard fact of life. I can think of no better person than you Karen for that dream job. You most definitely have the heart for it and you certainly must never doubt your ability. I will leave you with this quote by Thich Nhat Hanh:

“Because you are alive, everything is possible.”

Reach for the stars my friend and they will reach for you.  God Bless you Karen Love and Light x

[donq]

Thank so much, both of you.
You really make me happy.
I'm so glad that you really download it. :-)

[tribunalofmercy]

Oh dear lord....so you have a COpy of Carl's Red Book? Of Your Very Own?? And, of course when I clicked on the mailbigfile thing, there is nothing...of course not.

That darned book has escaped me for Years, and you have it. *jealous*

Thank you for sharing though!

[donq]

Mary Anne, I'll upload the file again.
It will take time. ok?

[donq]

Hi again Mary Anne,

Here it is:

free.mailbigfile.com/5453077f3ad9b4c378b2916aa476dd62/listFiles.php

It’s a big file, about 149 MB (high resolution) but it should not take so long time to download. It’s a free service so the file will be available there only for the next 10 days. But as long as I’ve tried it, it was clean and worked so well.
(Anyway, let me know if the link is broken, just in case).

It’s my pleasure to give a (good) book to a friend, so if there’s any other book that has escaped you (or anyone here), just let me know so that I might have this pleasure again. Thanks. :-)

P.S. On my first divorce, I lost all of my personal library. On my second divorce, I lost some, could keep some. But 7 months ago, before I moved here, I had lost almost all of them. There was no other way. I had to deal with the feeling of letting them go as if I was divorcing. Hahaha. Anyway, in the last decade, I become a good (ebook) hunter on the internet and have huge ebook collectons. Besides, I kind of know how and where I can find the book I need. I’ve told you this because I cannot take a credit as it's not my copy. lol.

[tribunalofmercy]

Hi Monty,

I thank you for your efforts to do this so that I can read it...I must be careful for my humor, my new friend, because I was teasing you and did not truly want you to feel you had to rush out and do extra work to reload it here! I am looking forward to seeing if I can read it, though - thank you again I used to have quite a collection of books myself, though I am basically a transient person and prefer to keep as little as possible in life...someone once asked me if there was a fire where I live, and I could take only one thing, what would I take? And I immediately thought of books...(after people, of course!)

Mary Anne

[donq]

Don’t worry, Mary Anne, I knew you were teasing.
It was just that it took some time to upload (about 1 hour for this file) because it was free service. That’s all.
I really meant it about giving a book to a friend. It really makes me happy. I rushed it just because I wanted that feeling.

[donq]

Oh! I used to ask this question before somewhere in the forum.
In case there was really a fire, and you could save only 1 book, which one was that?

[tribunalofmercy]

Wow, and I've tried to Answer questions like that before, lol - it was hard before, and it is Still hard. I think I have to consider books that cannot be replaced in some way, but there are two: one that is a leather-bound book of my Own writing - I would want to keep it if I could, though much is now on computer; and Two, my grandmother's books of geneology, for she traced our family line back for nearly 2000 years and only published a few copies for the family.

I have many "favorite" books but they are "replaceable" simply because they can be loaded from the 'net and Read, even though I will not have the Feel of the book anymore...I'll go over to the Book thread sometime and list some.

Thanks, Monty - which book would you choose if there were a fire?

[donq]

Mary Anne,
When I raised this question, all of my dear friends here didn’t answer. If they were fishes, no one took my bait. Worse than that, they even looked at me from underwater and smiled. Hahaha.
Kidding. I knew this was very tough question.
As for me, I already answered this question myself. I had two books in my mind: some versions of I Ching (not popular one) and "Heart of Buddhist Meditation" (about mindfulness). Frankly speak, I wanted to save them just because they "used to" be so important to me. If I’m going to read them again, they would become just books, not something more than books as they used to be for me.
Anyway, it was very true as you said, I still can find these books. And they don’t like your unique books which never could be replaced. :-)