Why do you help the others?

[donq]

Why do you help the others?
There’s a good story about this. 

Once there was a farmer who grew a very good corn. When he was asked why he always shared his best corn seeds with his neighbors, he smiled and said. "It’s also for my own benefit. As the wind brings the ripening corn pollen from field to field, if my neighbors grow the bad corn it will contaminate and degrade my corn, too.”

The first time I knew my friend had money trouble, I helped him without his asking. Later, he asked me for help even had not return my previous money yet, and I helped him again. The third time…urh…I hesitated to help but still did it.

Should I help him for the fourth time? Hmm…

I think that was not the case of sharing my best corn seed with my neighbors but spoiling it. I was spoiling him by giving him the bad corn seed (he didn’t want to help himself first because he knew I always there to help him.)

I believe spirituality also means not spoiling. I have to help my neighbors to be able to help themselves, too. That will be the real helping, will it not?  

[Ishtahota]

I find peace in my life where some of my past crap is concerned by being of service to other people. Being of service to others is the only way to truely serve the self. Everything in the spirit world works backwards from the way we think it should from the physical point of view.

[aceofcups]

Hi Monty

I think both sides should have a nice group meal together.. each bringing their best Corn Chowder recipe! To awaken there sense of their Shared Humanity.

aceofcups

[donq]

Hi ace,

Corn Chowder? Sounds to be a cool supperb! (yummy dinner.)
But who would be a pieneer who brings a pie first?

P.S. Bacon in Chowder recipe may be good but not clam, please. It sounds like Calamity!

[helenm]

As a parent I still struggle with this. I believe in the teach a man to fish and he eats for a life scenario. In all the times I have loaned out money to people, I rarely get it back and it creates a weird vibe for me, so along the way somewhere I stopped loaning money. If someone needed some, and I had it to give, I would give it as a gift. That way, I untangled the weirdness that I felt and offered it instead, and the energy was much better for me. And usually those people never asked me again, and I never wondered when they would pay me back

I am struggling with this same concept in regards to my children though. I have this need to want them to learn responsibility, but when push comes to shove, I have their back. This just happened recently with my son, and now I am rethinking having him pay me back. I want him to have the consequences of his actions, but I also don't want any weird money vibe between us. Still on the fence about this one.

[sparklekaz]

Hi Helen,

I can sympathize with your predicament, and in the past have helped my children out financially too. If it is small amounts, I would not expect it back. As at the time they were young and still learning to be financially independent. So if they needed a helping hand to buy food, something towards a big bill they were struggling to pay I would give. But, if they wanted a larger amount say for a special item or they had got into debt through irresponsible behaviour, I would expect it to be repaid. To be honest that has only happened once, and I did not have to say it was a loan, they themselves regarded it as such.

It is terribly hard as a parent to watch our adult children struggle. Every bone in your body wants to protect and cushion them. But, we are not always going to be around to 'bail them out' if they get into trouble, and I do truly believe that the only way of ensuring that they develop important life skills is through learning the consequences of their actions. By 'allowing them' to learn the hard way. And isn't that as an important a gift to give your children as any other. The ability to live their lives in safety and self responsibility, long after we are gone.

Love and light
Kaz

[helenm]

Yes, exactly, and that is my struggle with this. I think I may take your advice and see how he regards it, and go from there. Thanks!

[donq]

Hi Helen,

Welcome to the forum.

Yes, agree about “a weird vibe,” well put. I think spirituality has something to do with trying to untangle this weirdness. It’s more than optimistic view/practice because it will help us getting more solid ground to deal with this weird world in a more spiritual way. And after we got this solid ground we can help others better. As Kaz said, we can help our kids (and other people) by helping them “develop important life skills through learning the consequences of their actions. By 'allowing them' to learn the hard way.”

[helenm]

Donq:  You are the third person that I have come across this week that has used almost the exact same phrasing about consequences. I guess the sky is really trying to tell me this.  The first one was Shirley MacLaine.  I was reading her book, The Camino.  It was taking me away from the day, which I needed, and I came across almost that exact phrase you wrote.  The second was SparkleKaz and I really reasonated with her posts, and you are the third, so thank you.  I am taking it on board

[donq]

Hi Helen,

Shirley MacLaine? I never known that our Tess, a moody, difficult, former first lady ever wrote a spiritual book.
But I'm not surprised as she seems to be a woman of many talents.
Anyway, as I posted this thread on "why do you help others", I’m curious to know something. It’s ok if it’s too personal and you don’t feel comfortable to reply it.
Why do you decide to help others by channeling? And what was your inspiration to help by writing a book? What was the turning point? How do you deal with negative feedback from time to time? And what keep you doing what you are doing?
Thanks. :-)

[sparklekaz]

Monty, Shirley Maclaine was a very famous actress turned author. I think she does still act. Trying to think of a film you might recognize her from. I think she was in Two mules for sister Sara with Clint Eastwood. And she's done tons more. Google her! She's very into the spiritual. I read her book 'Out On A Limb' many, many years ago and loved it. I haven't read Camino, I must check it out. What was the book about Helen? Anyway, 'out on a limb' talked about her own growing and developing spiritual beliefs, meeting up with guru's, mystics, psychics and healers etc. Not sure but I think it was the first book she'd written.

Love and light
Kaz

[donq]

Ah…yes, I’ve just found that she also a famous spiritual author (I only knew she’s a famous actress.) I like her acting in “Guarding Tess” (1994), with Nicolas Cage.
Hmm… “out on a limb” sounds interesting! Thanks, Kaz.

P.S. If I didn’t misread it (as you know English is not my native language and sometimes I really misread something. ), I think Helen wrote a book about channelings? I really would like to know about her inspiration.

[helenm]

Good morning earlybirds (at least it is in my time zone!)

Donq: in answer to your question, why am I sharing my channelings, they helped me through a period of my life that was difficult to go through, and made me see things in a different light and to connect to the joy that was there, even in such difficult circumstances. They helped with the circumstances as well, but when I changed my perspective of what was happening (my daughter had been very ill and had to relearn how to walk after it was all said and done)to how to find the joy in my day, then the small became big. The littlest changes were celebrated, instead of noticing that she couldn't walk, we celebrated that she could move her toes freely without pain. Each day brought more to celebrate and we decided to stay in that vibration, although it was much more difficult for me than for her. I also had the benefit of seeing how she handled her illness with such grace and dignity, it changed my perspective of what is possible, and how our state of being changes the world around us. Because these specific channelings helped changed my perspective from the negative to the positive, I wanted to share them with others, in the hopes that they could help others as well.

I love Tess! In fact, we watched it again last week. A few weeks ago I went to my favorite used book store and found the Camino. I read the back, and it sounded like something my husband would like, so I brought it home. She actually took this journey through France and Spain, mostly by herself although she did start with a partner. It is a pilgrimage through the ley lines of this special place, and took her 30 days at a rate of 20 miles per day of walking mostly by herself into the journey to her soul. I am most of the way through it. She is an extraordinary person, if you ask me. I can't imagine wanting to do that, but it is very inspirational. I saw a you tube interview with her at her home (think she lives in Arizona.)

Anyway, my son went through some difficult times last week, and I picked up her book and started reading it because I needed to escape for awhile, and it sucked me in and was something I needed at that point in my life.

A lot of the books I pick up seem to be there exactly when I need them.

Anyway, thanks for asking

[cyberangel]

Hi all,

I also love Shirley Maclaine and have just recently finished reading her book 'The Camino' and I agree Shirley, along with the Camino does draw you into the mystery of this pilgrimage. Reading it I found myself also on a journey, first in accompanying Shirley through her words and her reflections and discoveries and secondly, on my own journey through her writings. My mind would wander through her words and onto a path of my own. You can indeed find the magic of The Camino even without traveling it yourself. After speaking to Ace in Chat about the book, he recommended I watch 'The Way'. I managed to get 'The Way' with Martin Sheen and his Son Emilio Estevez and thoroughly enjoyed it, although a different experience to Shirley's book, most enjoyable all the same. I wrote a short review of it on the forum called 'The Way - a review' if anyone is interested in reading and commenting on it. Anyway thank you guys as you have made me remember and smile. Thank you all.

Love and Light

[sparklekaz]

Hi Monty,

You were joking!! lol I am so literal sometimes. You are not the only one who misreads. And English is my first language, so no excuses for me

Helen, I loved what you said when you describe how your daughter's illness affected you. " (my daughter had been very ill and had to relearn how to walk after it was all said and done)to how to find the joy in my day, then the small became big. The littlest changes were celebrated, instead of noticing that she couldn't walk, we celebrated that she could move her toes freely without pain. Each day brought more to celebrate and we decided to stay in that vibration". Instead of worrying about what might happen, or what she couldn't do, you focused on what she could do, and gave thanks for that. Staying in the moment. Which is much easier said than done I know. A traumatic time for your daughter and the whole family, which you handled beautifully.

Now you've described the book, I think I remember now one of our other members Lorraine (Cyberangel) telling me about it. I thought at the time I'd really enjoy it. Paulo Coehlo has written books in a similar vein. I really love reading about the spiritual journeys of others. Sharing their insights and what 'their walk' reveals to them along the way. I really need to get a hold of a copy of this book, your mentioning it again, highlights that for me. So another sign from the universe, nudging me to get my finger out and read it.

Love and light
Kaz

[donq]

Hi again Helen,

I was going to turn in (yes, it’s already late into the night here ) but came back to check the forum again.
Thanks so much for sharing us your story. I could not imagine what you and your husband had to go through in that toughest situation. I apologize if my questions made your relived those toughest time again. But it’s really a great true story and inspiring, I must say.

As for this thread, (about your channelings) you have really been trying to give your best corn to your neighbors. Cheers!

More than agree about seeing things in a different light and start celebrating from even the littlest changes, snowball effect, right?

Recently, I have been thinking a lot about the difficulty in human lives. Rough food is not only good for our health but sometimes it’s more than necessary. As I was trying to “slowly” chew over and absorb all of my past difficult experiences, I found that those toughest situations were really necessary for my (spiritual) learning (no, I didn’t mean I’m a masochist Hahaha.) I only meant I got a lot from those experiences and they really have changed me (in the better/spiritual way). If I didn’t get those experiences I would never understand something I do now. Never!
Thanks again, Helen, for your sharing.
I wish you and your family be well. And I know all of you will. Because every after a storm comes a calm, right? :-)

P.S. Yes, when anyone is walking on his/her spiritual path, they always come across the book that has so meaningful to them somehow, somewhere (library, bookstores, secondhand books store etc.) all the time, even they knew nothing about that book before at all.

[donq]

Hi kaz,

No, no...no joke.
Recently I always misread something because of my bad glasses! (it's automatic focusing and I never like it!)