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Post by David Byrne on May 5, 2014 7:40:53 GMT
Do you believe that we live in a world rule by luciferic consciousness ? It would certainly explain why there is so much evil , crime and disasters in this world. Is this Satan's world or is it God's world where we have the ability to be effected by the luciferic consciousness ? Is that why we've become so dependent on a system where success is only measured by how much money you have and what you own ? Is God , jesus and all world religions a part of the luciferic consciousness to cause hate and division ?
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Post by baangus on May 5, 2014 10:20:14 GMT
Hi iamhe. Have you been reading Steiner? His Anthroposophy religion is big on the notion of Lucifer, and the idea that Luciferic influences are at work in the world. You asked what people thought and so here it is: Religious and spiritual fear-mongering in the form of Lucifer, Satan, demons, sinners burning in hell, eternal damnation and so forth is pure unadulterated claptrap. Now, is it real that people choose to believe this hogwash and then create hell on earth for themselves and for others as a result of their own fear-induced delusions? Absolutely.
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Post by cyberangel on May 5, 2014 17:19:54 GMT
Hi Iamhe,
There is a wonderful Cherokee story if I may share with you, you may have heard it before but please bare with me, I think it illustrates beautifully.
An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life.
“A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy.
“It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil – he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority and ego.”
He continued,
“The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth compassion and faith. The same fight is going on inside you and inside every other person, too.”
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather,
“Which wolf will win?”
The old Cherokee simply replied,
“The one you feed.”
Love and Light
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Post by baangus on May 6, 2014 19:24:48 GMT
Is God , jesus and all world religions a part of the luciferic consciousness to cause hate and division ? He-he. I just caught this comment, missed it the first time round. That sounds like the subject for one of those crazy Youtube conspiracy-theory documentaries iamhe, ha! Some free advice (all advice after this costs $5 a paragraph): We live in a world in which we are taught to point fingers and blame things. Don't fall for that, it's an illusion. God doesn't create suffering. Jesus never created any religion. And do you want to know the secret to eliminating hate? Don't hate.
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Post by holistichealer on May 27, 2014 16:59:45 GMT
Darkness is real. And it has a hierarchy. I can say this with absolute certainty, because I have looked into the eyes of possessed people and seen another, sinister intelligence looking back. I've had conversations with it and gotten it to agree to leave in the Spirit Releasement Therapy framework. And I've seen people change in an instant when such agreements were made.
I believe that ultimately, there is no such thing as an "evil" so powerful that it can actually challenge the Creator. I also believe that every thing in Creation serves a purpose. So what purpose in Creation does darkness really serve? It serves to provide "contrast", like all lessons do. It serves to provide us with choices, with subsequent lessons as a result of those choices that can only be truly appreciated in the context of multiple lifetimes.
And it's the nature of Creation that ultimately, we all return "home", with lessons and experiences gained through the choices we made along the way.
In the grand scheme of things, it's nothing to be afraid of. But in the short term, it can be an obstacle or a stepping stone, depending upon the choices we make.
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