cyberangel
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Post by cyberangel on Apr 2, 2013 18:36:22 GMT
Hello Friends, I was just wondering if anyone could help me in regards to Reiki? I have seen an advertisement in a holistic shop in town advertising Reiki courses. The first course is Reiki 1 and is €145 and run over two days well...first day is 3 hours and 2nd day is from 10-5pm. I have asked what lineage is the master and I have been told she uses the Usui Reiki. The 2nd course Reiki 2 starts 21 days after the first course finishes, and 21 days after that course Reiki 3 starts. Is this not a bit soon between courses? What I was wondering is what questions should I ask before I commit to these courses. The nice man in the shop gave me as much info as he was able to on the lady master but I feel that I should ask more questions before I decide to start as a) its rather expensive to find out that its not for me and b) What if my energy and the master’s energy don’t connect? Could someone please advise me on what questions I should ask? Thank you so much Love and Light PS. I meant to say you get a certificate after each course...I wish I could speak to this master lady BEFORE I pay for the class Also I am wondering is there a code of conduct/practice between the Master and student? Thanks again for any help
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sparklekaz
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Post by sparklekaz on Apr 2, 2013 19:50:16 GMT
Hi Lorraine, The prices seem fair so I don't think you are being overcharged. The time allotted for each course seems ok too. I was told that there should be a minimum of 21 days between Reiki 1 and 2. The reason being, to give the attunee, the chance to become used to the Reiki energy and to go through at least this period of self healing, before doing Reiki 2. Doing Reiki 3 which is the Reiki Master attunement, 21 days after doing Reiki 2, is far too soon. I think the reason is obvious. How can someone who has only just become attuned to Reiki, call themselves a Master. They will have barely began to experience Reiki for themselves. They will have only just started giving Reiki to others and will not in my opinion, have the ability and experience to attune others properly. Learning about Reiki healing, is not just about attunements. As you can imagine there is much more to it then that. There are the symbols to learn and be able to write and pronounce. There are the hand positions to be instructed in. There is also instruction on self healing, grounding and protection. You will be taught to send distance healing, which requires a different technique to the hands on channeling. On top of all that a Reiki Master will share with you the ethos of Reiki and hopefully pass on the tradition in the best way possible. Having only been practicing Reiki for a total of 42 days, I just do not see how that is possible. Any Reiki Master who is prepared to do that, in my opinion is not the sort of Reiki Master you would want to be attuned by. You could ring her up and speak to her personally Lorraine. Get a feel for the type of person she is, and how long she herself has been practicing Reiki. Don't be in a hurry, shop around, until you find the person that feels absolutely right for you. Both Holistic and I have both talked about Reiki in some length on another post on this section. You should read it, I think you might find it informative I only just had my Reiki Master attunement in December 2012, Lorraine. You might wonder why I left it so long considering I took my Reiki 2 in 2005. The simple fact was, I did not feel I needed the Reiki Masters attunement. I was happy to be a Reiki practicioner level 2, because I am a healer. That is all I ever wanted to do. That is why most people come into Reiki, I believe. Reiki 3 Master Teacher was always something in the distant future, something I thought I would take, when I felt ready and more importantly able, to teach other people about Reiki properly. We are all taught the principles of Reiki, and we all know the history of Reiki. It is a very honourable and spiritual traditon. In my opinion, any Reiki Master, who is willing to or actively seeks to attune others to be Reiki Masters after two months, is not into following the Reiki traditions, for any other purpose then to make money. I hope this has helped you Lorraine, remember these are only my own opinions and beliefs about Reiki, ultimately it is up to you. What you do, once your attuned, how you progress, is all up to you. The more you put into it, the more you will get out of it. A reputable Reiki Master, would advise you wait at least 21 days between 1 and 2. I waited six months. In theory, if you use your Reiki regularly, after 1 year, you might feel ready to take the next step. But.. if it were me, I would want to see your case histories of all the clients you have channeled healing for. Saw that you kept proper records and followed up, to offer advice and asistance if needed, without any extra charge. Being attuned to Reiki, in some ways can be likened to taking your driving test. You know the basic's but you then really started to learn to drive. It is the same with healing. You will come across situations, symptoms, reactions that will be new to you. Make sure the Reiki master teacher you choose, is someone you can keep going back to for advice, long after you have been attuned. A good one, will welcome that. Please feel free to ask if you have any more questions, I am more then happy to help if I can. I hope others will respond to you also. Love and light Kaz
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Post by holistichealer on Apr 2, 2013 20:29:00 GMT
Hi Lorraine,
Doing Reiki 3 which is the Reiki Master attunement, 21 days after doing Reiki 2, is far too soon. I think the reason is obvious. How can someone who has only just become attuned to Reiki, call themselves a Master. They will have barely began to experience Reiki for themselves. They will have only just started giving Reiki to others and will not in my opinion, have the ability and experience to attune others properly. Learning about Reiki healing, is not just about attunements. As you can imagine there is much more to it then that.
Kaz
I totally agree. Reiki is a lot like martial arts in one way: Schools who place financial income as a high priority churn out students who believe that they have achieved a high degree of attainment in a short period of time. As a "newbie" to Reiki, you have nothing to gauge by with regard to your capability. And without that- which only comes from time and practice- you simply cannot become a "Master" via a quick- study course and a day of practice. If the people or person who is teaching you follows this course, they will, of course, claim otherwise, or explain it away by various justifications. My suggestion: If Reiki is something that you are truly drawn to, go meet several teachers personally and compare notes from the information you get. Ask how long they have been teaching and attuning. Ask about their teacher(s), and their students. While there are many very nice and well- intended people in Reiki (as in any modality), they may have been "churned out on the fast- track" as well, with insufficient grounding and practice to actually teach well, although they mean well. So, don't gauge whether you like someone more or less than someone else as the ultimate criteria. In my opinion, there should be at least 1 year between "Level 2" and "Mastery".. with many sessions in between.
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cyberangel
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Post by cyberangel on Apr 2, 2013 22:10:06 GMT
Hi Kaz and Holistichealer,
Thanks so much for all the info you both have provided and you have both confirmed what I felt. I am in no rush whatsoever to gain master level if ever! I even think that 21 days between Reiki 1 and 2 is rushing it a bit but I have absolutely no idea of what it all means.
TBH I dont even know if this is the path for me, I just saw the ad and thought that would be very interesting to learn more about. I think I would prefer a talk about it or an introduction evening or something first as I have many questions and I feel I am not even ready to do Reiki 1 at the moment.
I will definitely do some research and learn more about the history of REIKI and see where that will lead me first. To have so many questions before I start which proves to me that I am not ready but merely have an interest, which if fine, but it is not a good enough basis to start, especially something which other's have worked so hard to attain.
I do know I would dearly like to explore into healing energy. I have noticed for quite sometime that when I am in public places I tend to try and keep my distance from people as sometimes I feel 'tingles or shivers' or sometimes like pins and needles in my hands. Sometimes I feel like my hair is standing up like static electricity.
I am very aware of energy around me and around places already and I can pick up on different atmosphere's either between people or within or around a place. Sometimes I can meet a stranger and even though they smile at me and their smile is warm I sometimes feel like crying, like I can sense their pain or struggles, and I feel an overwhelming sense of wanting to help them.
Of course I don't approach people, but I say to myself, God and the Angels please be with that person today and I send them good intentions. Shopping is draining because of this and I often come home drained of all my energy, and I would like to learn more about putting this energy to good use, in its proper way.
I have tried grounding and protecting myself before I go out but I still feel drained when I get back from town. Phone conversations can also do the same thing to me. I feel most alive when I am in nature and feel energised by the elements. I love touching the bark of trees or stroking leaves, walking barefoot along the beach, smelling freshly dug soil. Its like I become alive inside and can really connect with it all.
I have also focused my 'positive' energy and imagined it traveling outwards like sound waves towards a particular person, pet or place, this also leaves me drained but not for long. Of course I don't know if I am doing it correctly I just do what I feel is right. My brother has often said he has felt better within a day or two of doing this, unknown to him that I have sent him as much positive energy as I can muster.
I do believe that intentions has power, but harnessing that power and directing it is draining and that is what I would love to achieve properly and without feeling drained afterwards. Sorry if I am rambling on but I just wanted to give you some idea of where I am at the moment.
Back to Reiki, I love the idea of the symbols and sounds of the symbols and the energetic power behind them, now that really excites me inside, and I can almost visualise myself drawing them in the air and blowing them to where they need to go. Sorry again rambling on again. In relation to ringing this Lady and asking her the questions the man did not offer her number and I felt I was not to ask him either.
My gut is saying that this particular 'Master' is not for me, but I will go on to do some research in Reiki and Ursi. I will look up your posts here on it also and look forward to reading about it. Is there anything in particular that you would recommend I should start with on this journey? I will keep you posted of how I get on and I will follow my Angels and intuition on where I am to go with this.
Once again thank you both so very very much for all your help.
Love and Light x x x
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Post by holistichealer on Apr 2, 2013 23:27:29 GMT
Hi Kaz and Holistichealer, Thanks so much for all the info you both have provided and you have both confirmed what I felt. My gut is saying that this particular 'Master' is not for me, but I will go on to do some research in Reiki and Ursi. I will look up your posts here on it also and look forward to reading about it. Is there anything in particular that you would recommend I should start with on this journey? Hi, Angel: The first thing that comes up for me is that you have an accurate sense of what's going on. So trust what comes in for you. You say that you're pretty "jazzed" about what you know of Reiki so far. If it's meant to be, the right teacher will "surface" for you. You may very well meet a Reiki teacher who is just who you will benefit from best at this point on your journey. The second thing that comes up is that you say that you have a high level of sensitivity with regard to being affected by other people's energy. Pranic Healing makes a big point of "Energetic Hygiene" from Day 1. And in Pranic, there is no touch. It's all energetic. So, that may be well- suited for you in that regard. (I intend to write more about Pranic Healing and other individual modalities under the categories I started, as time permits.) The third thing that comes up for me is for you to not get into the "trap" of seeing yourself as an "empath". Many people seem to and have this idea that there is no way out and that they're just born with a gift that they're relegated to. (Sort of a double- edged sword.) Empaths are valid. I know a very good one personally who is a good friend of mine. And the thing about them is that as they feel "crappier", the other people feel "better". So, they're more of an energetic "sponge". Whereas sensitive people simply have the gift of innate sensitivity that they can shake off at will with training- as you will in time. Enjoy the journey. It will be fascinating.
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Post by holistichealer on Apr 2, 2013 23:42:59 GMT
One more thing:
For the record, I follow my own advice when looking for a teacher. Martial arts is a good example. I've trained in several arts and train in one to this day. In my martial life, since I began with Karate in the mid- 1970's, I've had 3 main teachers (who taught Kempo, Wing Chun and Chen Tai Chi, in chronological order), who are all now good friends of mine. But I did a lot of searching to find those three. The list and number of schools and styles I looked into is extensive. Some styles that I was very drawn to, the teacher(s) did not resonate with me, so I never began study with them in the first place. Some teachers I liked personally, but knew they had nothing I could benefit from.
Years ago, I did carpet care for a profession. I needed to learn carpet repair as a service that I could offer to my customers. Keeping in mind what my martial "father" taught me, which was to be open- minded and consider the idea that everyone can be a source of learning- even if it's just one single idea they have- I made it a point to "interview" as many seasoned carpet installers as would allow me to. Following the advice I was given, I looked for commonalities in what they had to say- because such tends to be indisputable truth. And I especially paid attention to what they said that was unique to them- because it tended to fit into one of two categories: either some innovation that was remarkable... or some inaccurate assumption they made that wasn't as accurate or innovative as they believed. (Determining which was a lot of fun, BTW.)
I suggest that you consider looking at studying healing in a similar fashion. There ARE central truths and laws. ("Energy follows intent.", for instance.) It's not uncommon to encounter people in the area who are more whimsical than factual and well- grounded.
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cyberangel
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Post by cyberangel on Apr 3, 2013 1:07:45 GMT
Many many thanks to you both again. I truly am so very grateful Sometimes I feel lost and don't know which way to turn in way of a definite direction so both your words have helped me enormously. It is so lovely to be able to share freely and receive advice that resonates with me It is very hard to express this in the chat room so I'm glad I posted here. Holistic, It's funny you should mention Pranic Energy as I have had a pranic healing session once by a friend who is a registered pranic healer and once in a group session (which my friend invited me to). The first time I had the session with my friend I was sat back straight with eyes closed, feet flat on floor and I could feel nothing at first but then I managed to relax and WOW...I started to see swirling colours, orange, yellow, purple like someone opening and closing a coloured filter...and the colours were coming from all directions at no time did my friend touch me...about 5 mins before the end of session I just started crying I dont mean sobbing but the tears just welled up and the tears flowed down my checks, I was not sad but it felt like a release of trapped energy and I felt absolutely amazing afterwards. She assured that this is common and not to feel embarrassed. In the group session I was less relaxed because I was in a new environment and with strangers, and had to try and remove myself from their energies which was very difficult as they were very strong energies. It was only when we volunteered individually for healing that I totally relaxed and this lady who worked with me was amazing. The colours were almost electrical like little streaks of coloured lightening along with the swirling of colours. I did not feel as emotional but more energized and again she did not touch me but I could feel her energy pushing and pulled me in different directions. She actually stopped at one point and asked if I was ok and I opened my eyes surprised and said yes I was just so relaxed. She continued and it was only after that everyone was saying that as she moved around me I moved towards her and was swaying, and it was then I realised why she asked if I was ok. The leader and main teacher of the group took me aside after and asked me what I experienced when I told her she said that maybe I should pursue this and that she has classes (quite a distance away from where I live) but I felt she was a little forceful and so I backed off politely and to be honest I was still a little embarrassed by my healing reactions in public. I did not return as I didn't want to be the one that 'sways' in group lol. But I did however enjoy it. So I will definately look up your posts on the Pranic Energy and maybe do more reading about this also. I agree I think there are many roots out there and different methods but from the same source I feel that I am being prepared for the next spiritual step but that I must also do some work towards it, that I wont know which way is right for me until I have tried them all (well, maybe not try them all but research them) and see which one pulls me towards it. At the moment I feel I am pulled many ways but I dont know which direction to go, if that makes sense. Once again thank you most sincerely for your help Kaz, Thank you for finding me the links and I will definitely look them up over the next few days. Come to think of it I think you did share this before with me once awhile back (last year) in chat but I think I ruled it out because it was so far away from me (I live on West Coast of Ireland over 170 miles away from Dublin) and would be too expensive time I add travel and accommodation and although I would love to my finances would not allow it, so I took it as a sign that it was not for me at that time. Now I can just about stretch to this course that is being offered but I feel it is not right for me but for different reasons. I just feel that this Master is not giving enough info about themselves or phone no. or even a name...although I man did tell me but I forget and I just feel the energy is not right for me for this one or at this time. Maybe when I find out more I might feel more drawn towards it, but for some reason I was meant to see the ad, maybe it was to give me a gentle nudge lol who knows? but I will definitely read what you both have wrote here on the forum and I will also look up those links you so kindly took the time to search for me - Thank You God only knows where I'll end up on this journey of discovery but I feel like I have 'itchy' feet and that I must start moving towards something, whatever that me be! I never felt I was a healer and I am still unsure, I know I am an empath (although I did not know the name empath until I joined chat!) and that does not bother me so much as I think we all have different abilities. I sometimes, rare as it is, but sometimes a get like a quick flash of a image or freeze frame of a person's life. This can be very quick and quite sudden, so its also hard to tune into it, as as soon as I see it, its gone. When I have shared with others what I have seen they are so completely surprised, as am I when they confirm details. This mostly happens with strangers that I have no affiliations with only maybe a friend of a friend that I may have shared their company with. Why this happens I have no idea, But this happens very seldom and is so fast that it does not really impact on me only if something stands out in the image. I have also 'picked' up details from letters and photos of strangers. Again I have no idea how or why this happens it just does, and I cant explain it. Sorry rambling on again lol, but its so nice to be able to talk and share this even now I feel so much better. It's like it's all built up inside and needs to be said. Anyway it's late now but I have so much I would love to share and get advice with but without annoying you both either. Once again I can't express enough how very grateful for both your time, help and responses Goodnight and God Bless you both, Love and Light xxx
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sparklekaz
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Post by sparklekaz on Apr 3, 2013 1:54:31 GMT
Hi Lorraine, The Reiki Federation, will know if there are any Reiki Masters in your area. I am a great believer in things happening for a reason, and when the time is right. Whether or not embarking on a Reiki course is right for you at the moment, is irrelevant I think. The point is, that you have been thinking more about developing your own healing abilities, and you are exploring your options and at the same time, learning more about what is available. I had to travel also when I did my Reiki 1 and 2 courses. I stayed with my Aunt and Uncle who lived in Birmingham at the time. A 120 miles away from where I lived in Wales. Funds were also an issue for me too and I didn't think I'd be able to afford it, but Reiki 1 was a birthday present from my two sisters, and I was able to afford Reiki 2 because my Mum passed away and she'd left me some money. Its funny how the universe helps us out, when something is right; And last but not least, let your friends know that your interested in Reiki. You would be amazed how often, someone knows someone else who does it. Love and light Kaz
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cyberangel
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Post by cyberangel on Apr 3, 2013 12:59:40 GMT
Hi Kaz and Holistic, I have read some of your wonderful and very informative posts and also have a read a few on other websites. WOW but there is so much info out there to explore and absorb. So far from what I have read and feel, I am more 'drawn' to the pranic healing as I seem to have more in common 'naturally' with this form of healing. I have also looked on youtube on pranic and Reiki. I have to say both were invigorating to watch and I could feel my own energy rising watching both. I think though that I prefer the non touch approach for myself as I feel it might just be too intense working so close and touching another, that is how I feel at the moment. I loved watching the techniques of the Master and paid particular attention to how they place and pass their hands over the client. The prana energy seems less intrusive to me, both for the practitioner and the client, although I could clearly see the benefits of both techniques on the people in the videos. Something feels more natural 'for me' at this stage about the pranic healing and I think for now I will focus on learning more about this for now as I dont want to overload my senses with too much too soon. I feel a new awakening inside and I feel ready to explore this avenue with great interest and vigour:) Thank you both again and I will let you know over the next few weeks how I am getting on and share what I have learned With much love and light PS. Kaz, I looked up the Reiki Federation of Ireland and there are only 2 listed in the Mayo region and neither of them was that lady's name. That is not to say she is listed elsewhere but I 'feel' that she was not for me at this point in time anyway, but I'm very glad I saw that ad yesterday none the less
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