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Post by clara927 on Mar 6, 2013 17:12:25 GMT
I was trying to read the bible from the point of view that God represented the true selfwas reading about Saul very recently and realized that its about God taking away his anointing from someone who disobeyed Gods commands. Saul was governed by the ego which made him fearful and jealous. Saul as chosen by God through Samuel, but when he refused to follow Gods commands to destroy an enemy's town completely, taking the good livestock and valuables for himself; his anointing was taken away and given to David. It reminded me of the story of Lot's wife turning back to look at the city and becomig a pllar of salt. It also reminded me of Esau who gave up his inheritance for food. I wanted to know why Gods spirit had left Saul, because I didn't think that the punishment matched the offense. But then I thought of the common theme in all of these stories was a lack of trust and indecision. Lots wife looked back into the past and refused to let go of what was and so like a pillar of salt, she was immobilized. Esau lacked the patience and discipline to subdue his urges for the benefit of a long term goal. He also didn't know the value of what he had. Saul also didn't trust God enough to wait on his guidance. Then I thought about what the difference was between Saul and David. I noticed David was courageous because of trust in God while Saul was full of fear. He was also forgiving even when Saul tried to kill him, he still had respect for him. I find that looking at the bible through the lense of the true self and false self makes me understand them better.
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Post by clara927 on Mar 6, 2013 17:44:52 GMT
I couldn't edit my previous post but I just wanted to add that. I see the story as a warning at this point in my life and a metaphor. If God is inside of us then I think looking at biblical stories from this point of view, it's possible that not "obeying " God is really not obeying our inner guidance.
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Post by holistichealer on Mar 7, 2013 5:59:21 GMT
In my opinion, the Old Testament "God" was a bogus pretender. The real Creator of All That Is, is not a psychotic father in the sky who is jealous and vengeful.
When you read Genesis, pay attention the where it refers to "Lord God", as opposed to "God". They appear to be two different entities, with "Lord God" being the one who wants entire villages, including women, children and animals, killed.
"Lord God" was seen, recognized, offered and accepted hospitality and bargained with. (See Genesis 18.)
I suspect that "Lord God" was what we would call an extraterrestrial, complete with holographic displays (burning bushes that aren't consumed), space ships (Ezekial's "chariot", the fall of the walls of Jerico and others), teleportation ("messengers" who appear and disappear), nuclear weapons (Sodom and Gomorrah and the Vimanah of India)and time travel (accurate predictions of events to come).
The New Testament is where the real Creator appears.
In my opinion.
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Post by clara927 on Mar 7, 2013 12:00:21 GMT
Thank you for your thoughts Markings.
I didnt read it from a literal perspective. I focused on the symbolism. God represented the true self. The things that "god" demanded to be "killed" were the parts of the false self. That requires letting go and trusting. It also gave insight into the heart. Saul and David were both flawed characters, but Saul's heart wasn't pure and was afraid, so he couldn't let go. I dont know, maybe things wouldve ended differently for him if he willingly gave up his throne to David.
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Post by clara927 on Mar 7, 2013 12:56:47 GMT
I meant Holistic healer, not Markings btw.
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Post by holistichealer on Mar 7, 2013 23:29:24 GMT
Interesting way of looking at it.
Edgar Cayce (and others) have said that Genesis' story of creation is a metaphor about us descending into matter from spirit, getting tangled up and "stuck" here, to put it simply.
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