Ideas on God and the Universe: lets inquire

[shane24187]

Perhaps out of Gods pure conscious desire for a physical existence, the Universe and all its contents manifested.
Perhaps what we believe to be individual consciousness is collectively apart of Gods consciousness. We live so God can experience a physical, mortal state of existence through us. Perhaps God feels what we feel. Perhaps what we experience sustains God, in the same way that Gods desire brought life and sustains us. Perhaps God is every bit as much a part of us as we are apart of God. Perhaps what we conceive to be the axiom of Good and Evil is the consequence of Gods need to experience the full spectrum of life (exp. Pleasure, Pain, Happiness, Sadness, Loss, Fear, Excitement, Boredom, etc..). Perhaps Gods needs are not just secluded to human experience, but too all life and matter in the Universe. Perhaps God is dependent upon the Universe equally as the Universe is dependent on God.

any thoughts?

[clara927]

Hello Shane,

I think that's possibly the case, even likely that the thoughts we create and the feelings we feel make up part of the whole of God. It does seem to fly in the face of many ideas about God ("your thoughts are not my thoughts"). Or maybe it doesn't in that what one person thinks and feels is never the whole of God. We are all a part of it, of Him.

Thank you Shane

[clara927]

Hello Shane,

I think that's possibly the case, even likely that the thoughts we create and the feelings we feel make up part of the whole of God. It does seem to fly in the face of many ideas about God ("your thoughts are not my thoughts"). Or maybe it doesn't in that what one person thinks and feels is never the whole of God. We are all a part of it, of Him. But then there is the idea that God can change based on our collective change. I guess that may be unsettling because God is the one thing that's not supposed to change. But maybe it's also a case of getting what you put in, God doesnt change in that way because he can only obey the laws of the universe. God can only be what we collectively agree on. I notice that I go back and forth in my mind on what this means.

Thank you Shane

[shane24187]

Its important that we come to God realization where we know in our hearts that there is a God. The mechanics of that God however are only speculation.

[shane24187]

One of the ways i came to God realization was through an exercise which happens to be great for challenging the mind. Try and imagine Total Nothingness. Imagine yourself among all life on earth, within the solar system, within the galaxy, within the Universe. Begin to slowly remove each and everything you imagine. Remove yourself, all life, earth and so forth. Until all you can imagine is the fabric of the Universe itself. Many people see black or white it depends on the person. Now go even further and try to imagine a place beyond color, light, solidity, sound, space, time etc... you will quickly find that it is not possible. No matter how hard you try there will always be an image no matter how plain that image may be. All the mind knows is the physical Universe. It cannot go beyond. Through meditation and further contemplation i realized that the great unimaginable Nothingness was where God existed.I realized no matter how hard science tries it will never be able find proof of Gods existence because God doesn't exist in this physical realm.

[jerboa]

Unless they are looking in the wrong place, but who are they? They (for me) are my expectations of others which are based on past experiences, so even still its based within the physical.

God is primarily everything, but he behaves as a collective which can either appear as many or as a single, depending upon the parts being looked at and the distance from them. Take the earth, its a single earth, go to surface of the planet, its made up of thousands of individual life forms and parts. Take one life form or part, its made up of a million more. Likely for as far as the mind wants to try comprehend, at some point we'd need to except that theres a level we can't see beyond, thats so small or so far away that everything there becomes an abstract or indirect (sort of cause effect, bouncing off of each last thing) to eventually reach us as waves.

The above probably isn't accurate science, I've never studied it, rather just played small mindedly with ideas of quantum physics. God tends to be relative to a person or people, sometimes shared sometime individual. For me it veries and doesn't have any structure that I'd picked up from religions, though the wisdom in such things is self evident.

Hope the above is interesting food for thought, I've spent similar moments trying to see what my imagination tells me is outside of our physical universe.

The strongest form within nothing, is whatever form you place within it, as nothing does nothing, the form inside of it would be without change, unless there was a second form capable of influencing the other.

[jerboa]

Interestingly with the waves of such, it would appear to surround us via the way it arrives in our physical experience. So a particle or motion within a particle caused by one of these waves would appear everywhere at a similar time, or would appear in many different times, or for a period of time, irrespective of times passage. Idk though, its not fact, nor provable. Just ideas

[shane24187]

So while doing some book shopping i came across a book called The God Theory.The concept of God that the author shares is nearly identical to my own. The man beat me to the punch! So much for writing my own book lol.

though it is interesting how so many minds come to such a similar concept of God through their own individual spiritual journey.