mazen
Someday somehow you'll know that Islam is the answer
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Post by mazen on Jan 7, 2013 20:48:37 GMT
Over the ages and from the start, Islam is based on peace , peace with other religions , thoughts , ideas, civilizations ...etc.... The Qur'an - a holy book sent to Prophet Mohammed by Gebril (Angel of angels)- shows clearly how Islam is based on peace thus in Arabic Islam means "Peaceful" . What you watch oftentimes on TV from Hijackers , Suicide Bombers or in other words "Terrorists" do know NOTHING about Islam nor it's principles.
Prophet Mohammed warned Muslims through his speeches about the near meet with Islam and the " Sofaha2" - people who have useless lives/have no future - so many times he warned us about them "Don't let them study certain parts of Qur'an , Don't let them rule countries ,Don't.......etc... ".
There are dozens of proof that Islam means Peaceful though it is. Maybe you can know it from our simplest proof the Muslim greeting " El Salam 3'alay-kom wa ra7-mat Allah wa barakato " - May peace be with you and Allah's blessings .
In essence, I thank everyone reading my simple review on the meaning of "Islam" , seeing people representing all Muslims with a disgraceful way to the modern world , makes me wanting to raise my voice defending the most important thing in my life "MY Religion".
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sparklekaz
Someone asked me.. What is your religion? I said, "All the paths that lead to the light".
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Post by sparklekaz on Jan 7, 2013 21:16:24 GMT
Dear Mazen, Thank you for sharing this with us. Your words express beautifully the true essence of Islam. I believe that the more people understand the beliefs of others the less ignorance and fear there will be.
From what I have read about Islam, it is a very beautiful, loving and peaceful religion. Sadly, there are fanatics in all beliefs. It is important to realise that they do not represent the majority, who are devout, loving human beings who simply wish to live in peace with their fellow man.
Esalam alaykum Kaz
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Post by holistichealer on Apr 14, 2013 15:20:32 GMT
If the majority of Muslims are peaceful, why do they not speak up against the minority that is not?
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Post by gruntal on Apr 15, 2013 2:53:29 GMT
I think you need to realize people are only as advanced as their surroundings; any progress is good even if the goal is much removed to be discovered later. In the beginning when religions were created it was enough to get humans to stop acting like animals. The social economic political system that we take for granted that enables us to speak out as what is right or wrong wasn't so obvious in the past or people were too primative to not abuse it.
At some level you face terrible ostracization for being different; at another level you have nobody but yourself to blame for things and attitudes. I wonder how many Muslims have reached the state of grace where they can honestly say and do exactly what they feel about their religion and the others who also practice it? The Christian religion has had so many internal civil wars it is a wonder it hasn't chastised itself into oblivion; Jewry is notorius for it's prophets lambasting the Chosen People abandoning the principles of the faith. As much could be said for races and ethnic groups: one day your slaves and mistreated and the next day your the slave master and cracking the wip.
Alas being a devout Muslim may now be viewed as keeping your mouth shut and not "rocking the boat" . As if that defines being devout. I have reason to belive it won't always be that way. As it is now I wouldn't want to live in a predominately Islamic country. Then again they probably don't need to lock their doors at night as much as we in the West do. That is very embaressing to me!
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Post by holistichealer on Apr 15, 2013 5:03:25 GMT
one day your slaves and mistreated and the next day your the slave master and cracking the wip. Karma and rebirth at work. I'd like to hear an answer from someone of this particular faith. This is a question I've long wondered about.
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Post by markings on May 11, 2013 4:33:51 GMT
If the majority of Muslims are peaceful, why do they not speak up against the minority that is not? From what I understand to criticize a fellow muslim for what they do or say is un-islamic and as such much be punished. The punishment for it seems to range from shunning to death threats. In psychological terms both options are pretty much the same as to the effect it has.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2013 16:10:58 GMT
If the majority of Muslims are peaceful, why do they not speak up against the minority that is not? How its possible you didn't see it i saw it so many many times they condemn it. I saw Muslims condemn Muslim terrorists 100 times more than i saw Christians condemn Christian terrorists. But no body said Why Christians don't condemn Christian terrorists? What terrorists YOU condemned except Muslim terrorists?
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Post by markings on May 12, 2013 3:58:51 GMT
Muslims can demonstrate and riot over a cartoon of Allah or the prophet, issue death threats to an author because of a book he wrote. I am not aware of any such happening against terrorism, which one could interpret as an indication where their priorities lie.
The mass protests we usually see trample all over values held in high esteem in the Western world, democracy, of which freedom of expression is an inherent and vital component.
If we could see a broad based and popular movement against terrorism and woman abuse Islam might get to be viewed in a different light. As long as politicians and clerics wnat to return all societies to the middle ages by all means including violence, the image of Islam will remain tainted.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2013 4:24:38 GMT
^ Pls tell ur list of terrorism acts u have condemned except Muslim. Also how many times and were u did it. Thank u.
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Post by gruntal on May 12, 2013 16:36:05 GMT
Sitting in my room, playing with my model railroad, my brother was watching television in the next room but I could not help but over hear a ruckus on "breaking news" about yet another violent act and/or assasination. That was such a violent time ( 1968 ) I wasn't much surprised - maybe we just expected the worst. This time it was Senator Robert Kennedy who was murdered by being shot with a RG revolver at point blank range by a Mr. Sirham Sirham. Subsequent investigation revealed Sirham was a recent immigrant from I belive Jordan to the U.S.A. who was fanatically opposed to Kennedy's support of the State of Israel. Never the less the gun got all the blame with the result of the passage of the 1968 Gun Control Act here. Mr. Sirham still is very much alive although he is angry we won't let out of jail.
Over the years the U.S.A. endured the Iranian hostage crisis, several sabatoge acts on a prominet office building in New York City which eventually destroyed it completely, the invasion of Kuwait which we got involved in, a mass shooting at a U.S.A. millitary base by a character shouting ALLAH AKBAR, a suicide bomber in Beruit flattened a U.S.A. bunker so easily now even the March Airforce Reserve Base where I live has concrete barriers to prevent that. I did volunteer at a local Triathlon , came home, hear a major simular event on the East Coast U.S.A. was bombed by what we know now were recent Islamic Arab immigrants. A U.S.A. embassy attack in Benghazi turned out fatal to it's American occupants; the Secratary of State Hillary Clinton is being taken the task as well as our President as to WHY they allowed it to happen. Many more incidents involving the U.S.A. or it's armed forces over seas implicating Arab Islamics.
I have yet to hear of Amercans stoning Moslems; we oft blame the our weapons or our leaders for allowing things to happen. Yeah it's all OUR fault for being so powerfull and abusing that power. Odd a suposedly Christian nation ( U.S.A. ) can't even light up the windows in a government office building without violating discrimination laws if those room lights make the whole building resemble a cross.
I don't know how peacefull Christains are now or to what extent they even identify themselves as such in the Judeo-Christian tradition but they certainly had a lot of smugness wiped off their persona of late. Yes a lot of it was our own fault. Shame is a very real part of being a WASP ( White Anglo Saxon Protestant ). It will be awhile yet for the Islam types to emulate that!
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Post by holistichealer on May 13, 2013 1:55:43 GMT
Hi, Tiki:
It is very easy to fall into the age- old patterns of conflict and "mud- slinging" that got us to where we are today. I choose not to, as I hope that you choose not to.
You want your question answered without answering the one that came first. This is, by definition, "not reasonable" and indicates strongly that you are taking this personally and responding emotionally. When I posed the question, I asked a logical question that fit in with the topic of this thread. There was and is no criticism or accusation in the question. It was, and is, simply a question, which, even to this point in this discussion, has not been addressed directly by someone of Islamic faith.
Now, even though your response has been unreasonable in my opinion, I will answer the question that you asked, if you agree to answer the question I asked once I do so.
Do you agree?
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Post by markings on May 13, 2013 15:05:00 GMT
^ Pls tell ur list of terrorism acts u have condemned except Muslim. Also how many times and were u did it. Thank u. I condemn ALL acts of killing, intimidation and threats for idealistic causes (ideas, thoughts or concepts) no matter where they occur and perpetrated by whom, be that by Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Communists or Muslims. I also condem the subjugation of women and their physical muitlation which is still standard practice in many African countries, as well as their mental mutilation which is still present in many if not most societies all over the world. I condemn the use of rape for whatever reason but especially that of corrective rape of mainly Lesbians and occasionally gays. Anything which does not allow people, man or woman, every single one of them, to develop their full potential as they see it themselves, is terrorism of a different and subtle kind which needs to condemned in no uncertain terms. Is that good enough?
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Post by bigczar on Feb 10, 2015 5:34:19 GMT
Mazen, I 100% agree with you that at its core, Islam is a peaceful religion. With that being said, I feel that certain religious leaders throughout the history of Islam have placed too much of an emphasis on the more conservative aspects of the religion. I believe this is one of the reasons why we see radicalism in Islam more so than other religions.
It's not that the central message of Islam is bad, it's that certain aspects of the faith get distorted and create rifts.
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