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Post by jesusrose on Nov 12, 2012 18:57:55 GMT
I've been thinking about ascension and the shift from the 3rd to 5th dimensions.
I am wondering about the challenge in living in 2 dimensions effectively. There are people with us who don't want to ascend (and of course that's fine) but how does that affect us who hope to ascend?
If we want to ascend, will we keep being pulled back by the world in the 3rd dimension - since it will be all around us? I'm asking Michael for answers he says 'of course it'll be fine' lol.
I think I'm trying to figure out my day-to-day in a world powered by co-creation vs this world of money management, stress and axiety.
Don't even know what I'm asking but there is my braindump lol.
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Post by gruntal on Nov 13, 2012 0:25:39 GMT
There is a some what rhetorical question posed to ministers and priests as to rather people could expect to be reunited with their pets in Heaven. The learned answer was usually no (no dogs and cats in the here after) in which case the inquirer (skeptic) lamented they would just have to skip heaven.
But ascension seems to have been defined in a new age in which we get to keep everything but in a higher more advanced level. Well that sounds a lot better to me meaning maybe just maybe we could finally start to really enjoy what we have without all the problems that vex us now.
I do find it problematical that the lowest would be elevated and the highest would find themselves sent back to the first grade. Because I don't know how I might fit into that picture and I am NOT aspiring to be anything just for the sake of "fitting in". Pretensions are not me.
On the other hand I have since the day of my birth wondered why the others had to act the way they did (as well as me) and secretly wished for something better. That did NOT look good on my resume though. So I pretty much kept quiet about that.
I would like to think Ascension would be a vindication of me and not a retribution. Beyond that I wouldn't worry about it. If my pooche turns into an angel and comes back to help me I'll be amazed. Then again reality would change so I couldn't tell if anything changed anyway.
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Post by jesusrose on Nov 13, 2012 4:59:52 GMT
Vindication sounds right lol. I think I struggle with this because everyone is on their own path and i'm just wondering if i'm going to suddenly stop worrying about the things I worry about all of the time (fingers crossed). Weird stuff I'm throwing around, I know. I need to relax
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Post by cyberangel on Nov 13, 2012 12:09:44 GMT
Dear Rose and Friends,
From my own understanding and intuitive feeling and guidance...we don’t ascend overnight (I rarely if ever use the word ascend or ascending but more the word transcend or transcending, because that is the word I heard my angels use, and I had to look it up as I had never heard it before LOL) I believe our spiritual development or transcension is a continuous process which IS speeding up. I do not believe in our life time many will actually ascend or transcend but I do believe we are dipping in and out of what you call the 5th dimension.
I believe what we experience through meditations, healing, prayers, worship, nature, dreams is all part of the process. I also believe we are being guided, for me it’s my connection to the Angels for others it may be healing or a walk in nature that inspires or refreshes, but whatever it is there is something that surely guides us to where we should be. Listen to your heart, soul or trust your gut feeling on what feels right for you.
I don’t believe there is any one particular way either to this my friends...I just feel we will either move on or remain the same but with maybe a little more insight. For now I am living each day as it comes and trying to make a difference in the world along with trying to connect with other souls seeking their way home. I really do believe, that we will all go where we are meant to be whether we know it or not.
Love and Light x x x
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Post by Ruby on Nov 17, 2012 16:53:37 GMT
Hello jesusrose.. I get very confused when people talk about dimensions. Do you mean when we become more aware spiritually and so our vibrations rise, or do you mean we actually disappear from this world as we know it and go somewhere else? If we disappear, it sounds as if we die and I find that makes me uncomfortable to put it mildly. Can you explain this a little better for me.
Blessings Ruby
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Post by bev on Nov 20, 2012 7:44:03 GMT
This is a totally new idea to me, could you please explain what you mean by ascend ?
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Post by gruntal on Nov 20, 2012 16:22:42 GMT
Some of the most (at least to me) interesting and easily understood examples of Ascension was written about by Gregg Braden. He noted that groups of people or animals seemed to just be able to see or do things by default when just one member of the group stepped out as the "vanguard". It apparently involved communication different that what we now know; something on a higher level. Monkeys might learn a new trick on an isolated island but then all the monkeys in the area started doing the same on other equally isolated islands. How could that be?
It seems to differ from evolution in that trial and error was a learning process but ascension seemed to involve actual DNA changes more quickly and suddenly. You weren't really the same anymore for some reason and the whole world looked different too.
Notice I didn't give any details. I don't understand most spiritual details. But I do feel my limitations very keenly now. And how it might be if I had inherited different much advanced genes. I find the subject of inheritance most intriguing - we just get the norm and don't think of anything else. What if we suddenly mysteriously just were what we desired because it was all in our DNA? I think that is what ascension means.
It is suggested 2012 is a time cycle that will predispose our ascension very quickly.
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sparklekaz
Someone asked me.. What is your religion? I said, "All the paths that lead to the light".
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Post by sparklekaz on Nov 20, 2012 17:31:44 GMT
Dear George,
That was very interesting and well put. You have explained something I have always wondered about too.
Love and light Kaz
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