Dead Presidents

[DeeUSA]

Hi All,

I thought I would post this one. I've already gotten a little insight from Kaz in the chat room but I wanted to hear it within context of the entire dream. I welcome all insight and thank you in advance for reading it.

Some one died. He was someone famous, maybe even a sports star or a famous college coach I believe (now that I'm thinking about it). For whatever reason the family called me in to assist with the visitation. Either that or I was around some of the people that knew him when they found out that he had passed and they all turned to me for support.

I remember it was a sports star (football I believe) with his wife. Once again he was a bald headed caucasian man (I'm beginning to wonder if this is my ex husband). He was crying hysterically. He turned away from his wife's comforting and came to me. He was a big guy...over 6 ft tall and well over 200 lbs. I can literally remember him draping himself over me and crying so hard that I could feel his tears running down my neck.

I woke up from the dream and when I went back to sleep the dream actually continued.

So now we're in the visitation service. But it was private. It was like he was in a hospital room and people would come in in very small group (3 to 4 people) and pay their respects and leave. The body was laying in a hospital bed. It was badly decayed but no one seem turned off by it. I was a little shocked but kept on towards the bed. I remember seeing his family in the corner crying and they couldn't really do anything. So I started to do stuff. He was actually laying in the hospital bed like a regular person, but he was dead and decaying. The sheets (they were like a deep royal blue color) that they had him laying in were crooked so I fixed the sheets and started allowing people in.

The one thing I remember about the people that came to see him were the fact that there were 2 American Presidents ( I can't really remember which one but I know at least one of them was still living) that came to pay their respects. They acted like they had met me before. I don't think we were best friends, but they acted towards me as if our paths had crossed more than a couple of times. My daughter was with me at that point and she was so excited. I remember her asking me if she could take a picture with each president when they came in. For some reason I knew it wouldn't be a problem for the Presidents so I told her yes. I remember looking at the Presidents their entourage and seeing my daughter in the middle of them taking pictures and everyone laughing despite we were in the room with this deceased person.

Then I woke up


Blessings,
Dee

[sparklekaz]

Hi Dee,

In dream symbology, all the people, the characters in our dream on one level, represent YOU the dreamer. When looking at each person, you ask yourself, what is it about this person am I drawn too, or repelled by. What quality do they have that I would like to emulate or use more in my life. Or what quality or aspect of them do I not like, and is it something in my own personality or psyche that I recognise about myself that I do not like or believe is negative for me. Things I need to work on? The man being famous, may indicate in his circle he was very well known, or this situation is well known to those around you.

Tears in dream symbology are about releasing of emotion, whether joy or sorrow. Looking at the atmosphere of this dream I would say it is about something that has caused you deep unhappiness and sorrow. All the other people attending this visitation, are aspects of you, that are reacting in the same way. This would indicate, that the death of this person or situation and its connection to you has affected every aspect of your life.

Tears are also about emotional cleansing Dee. A release of sadness, frustration and suppressed feelings. By letting go, you allow into your life the space for healthy, balancing, emotional energy. On another level, it is releasing any negativity, that is holding you back from regaining love of self and allowing you to start to see the truth of a situation.

I would say the man who comes to you and leans on you for support is connected to the corpse. It is all reaffirming to me that this dream is connected to a male energy, that needs to be released. Which is happening. The slow decay of the corpse is showing that it is happening slowly, there is no going back now. Something in you has changed. The grieving process in itself is made up of stages. First there is numbness, then anger, then denial and finally acceptance. I would say this dream is pointing towards the acceptance stage. Only you know if this is meaningful to you Dee.

The dream is centred around a corpse. In dream symbology this points to a part of the self that has died. The corpse is decomposing already. So not only has this aspect died, but already its affects on you are started to diminish. It is pretty graphic and unpleasant, this would indicate to me that you are slowly beginning to see sense but the whole process of this has been very distressing for you. Now only you know if this has meaning for you. It can be related to something that may have had an addictive quality to it. My feeling is it is connected to a relationship, rather then being addicted to some kind of substance.

The fact that you woke up, and then went back to sleep and continued with the same dream, is very important. It is reinforcing the dream message for you. It is making sure you 'get it'. The corpse in the dream is lying on a bed. The bed in dream symbology is a place of intimacy and relaxation. This is showing us that the man is part of this aspect of your life. The cover, can be seen as covering something up or hiding it. Are you covering something up or hiding something from yourself or those around you who care about you?

Blue is connected to spirituality. Have you at some point tried to hide from facing this situation, via your spiritual life. This might mean you tried to hide from the reality of the situation, by focusing your attention elsewhere. On the other hand, it could be saying that it is through your inner strength and spiritual beliefs, that you will be able to work through this. Maybe it is a bit of both! Only you know if this is meaningful to you Dee.

Hospitals in dream symbology are places of healing. It offers emotional, mental and physical rejuvenation. Though you are there to visit the corpse, this is about you. when you were talking about going towards the bed and fixing the sheets. I was thinking the words, laying out the corpse and laying something to rest. You are laying this situation to rest! Does that make sense to you. People come forward to comfort. In life, this might indicate, that you are slowly allowing the people around you who care for you in. You are being more open about your feelings and allowing them to comfort you. This is all part of the acceptance process. You are letting go of one thing and embracing another.

The latter part of the dream with the American presidents is interesting. Obviously they are very powerful masculine figures. In your life, is there two older men who you really respect and see in this light? Two strong male role models? Your daughter in the dream is your daughter, but she also represents the the young Dee. So these male role models could be men you have known all your life, from your own childhood. They might be male relatives, or family friends, or even from your church. On another level, they may even be from spirit. Family who have passed over, but who are watching over you and your daughter. I would definitely say they are a strong protective influence.

A deep dream Dee, I hope I have helped to shed a little light on them for you. At least given you something to consider and think about. Please only take from it that which is meaningful to you and simply leave the rest. I would appreciate your feedback.

Love and light
Kaz

[DeeUSA]

Hi Kaz,

Wow!!! I was blown away by your interpretation! I really didn't think the dream had so much information for me. A lot of it was, as always spot on and made a lot of sense with regards to the things that are going on in my life right now.

Yes there were a lot of symbolism that made sense to me Kaz. For instance, the tears symbolizing cleansing of something that has brought me great sadness. Well we both know that I have had tremendous upheaval in my life over the past months and although I still feel like I'm experiencing the upheaval maybe this is a sign to let me know that I'm moving past it.

I would have never thought that the dead corpse and the man crying on my shoulder were connected. But now that you've said it. it sort of put a lot of things in prospective. Everything about the decaying corpse and the man and the “addictiveness” of a relationship all make total sense to me. One question is that from what I remember the corpse didn't decay slowly...it actually decayed fast because by the time the visitation (probably within a week) it was badly decayed which is what stood out in my mind. So would that mean that the negative “energy” will disappear quickly?

Now what really struck a chord with me is that the bed represents intimacy and I was very interested to see that the corpse was in the bed. That definitely made a lot of sense to me. And yes I had been covering some things up with regards to my relationship with my ex and I guess its an issue I need to resolve.

With regards to the blue sheets in the dream...I would have to say its a little of both. The one thing I must say is that my actions are taking a toll on my mind body and soul and they're screaming out at me.

“Though you are there to visit the corpse, this is about you. when you were talking about going towards the bed and fixing the sheets. I was thinking the words, laying out the corpse and laying something to rest. You are laying this situation to rest!” These words make me very happy!! Its great to know that this situation is being laid to rest because it has definitely taken a toll on me. I keep getting messages that my situation that I've experienced is quickly moving to the past but I haven't seen it. I'm hoping that if my inner self is telling me that it has to be true.

Regarding the male figure...well I keep saying that I truly believe that one of the presidents were deceased and the other still alive. So that would lead me to believe that its my great uncle (deceased) and my father (still alive). It feels great to know that my great uncle may be watching over me and my daughter....because I sure do miss him.

Whew!!! Yes, Kaz this was a deep dream. I must say when I woke up the second time from the dream I had a physical remembrance of the dream (if that makes sense)...the fact that I could still “feel” the dream when I woke up made me immediately write it down. I had no clue that it would have so much meaning.

Thank you so very much for insight.

Blessings
Dee

[sparklekaz]

Dear Dee,

I am so glad that the interpretation resonated with you.

You say the corpse was actually decaying fast. This 'could' mean that, 'now' you are starting to see this situation in its 'true' light, things will start to become clear for you pretty quickly.

When we have become psychologically addicted to a situation, 'sometimes' it can be helpful to have some help too understand why, in spite of knowing something is toxic or bad for us, we still cling on. I can tell this situation has caused you great distress and pain, and there may be a part of you that is at a loss to know 'why' in spite of this you had still clung on. Speaking to a therapist might help you to understand this. It is simply a suggestion, but maybe one you might consider. If not now, maybe in the future when your financial circumstances are better.

You are a strong lady, and I am guessing you are in many ways baffled at your own reactions to this situation. This in itself can be very distressing. Being a decisive person in many other areas of your life, it can be very undermining to the confidence to feel that in this instance you seemed to have no control over your reactions. As if, though every part of you was screaming No, you still went ahead anyway.

I believe this type of situation arises because of underlying factors, including the atmosphere around you at the time. Add to this things like, self expectation, pride, ego and fear of being alone; and you are left with a powerful need to cling on to something to the point where it over rides the normal fail safe mechanism we have in place that would normally prevent us from ending up in such a negative situation. In time, I believe you will come to see that clearly and understand what those things were.

I know Dee you would love to go to bed tonight and wake up tomorrow and it will all magically disappear. That you will have full control of your life again and not be in pain. But please believe me, that as painful and distressing as this whole experience has been, I believe it has been and is an incredibly important part of your emotional and spiritual growth. You may not believe this now, but in time it will have made you very strong, focused and aware of what you want from your life, who you are as a person and where you want to go from here.

Keep writing down your dreams, they will help you. I know for myself, having some understanding of a situation gives me great comfort, rather then feeling like a rag doll being tossed around by the winds of fate, with no control over my own life.

Remember too, that you are always in control, it is your ego that makes you feel that you are not. If you could tap into that part of yourself Dee, that is standing back from this situation and watching and understanding what is really going on. This authentic part of you, your true self, that which sees clearly and not through the illusion of fear. Then you would indeed wake up tomorrow and be able to put this experience behind you, put it to rest. I have no doubt at all, that you will get there. It is not if, it is when.

Love and light
Kaz