sparklekaz
Someone asked me.. What is your religion? I said, "All the paths that lead to the light".
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Post by sparklekaz on Jun 14, 2012 0:08:18 GMT
Love is a force of nature. However much we may want to, we can not command, demand, or disappear love, any more than we can command the moon and the stars and the wind and the rain to come and go according to our whims.
Is love simply a chemical reaction between two people or is it something else? What is your definition of Love, what does Love mean to you?
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Post by gruntal on Jun 14, 2012 1:35:08 GMT
Love can be an attachment to a live being and when that is no more that produces sadness. I loved to stroke my pet's fur when they were alive. It can also be an attachment to an inanimate object and when that also ceases to exist that causes sadness. I felt very sorry riding Los Angeles Railway 3003 right behind LARY 3087 on the V line inbound one morning March 31, 1963. Because that was THE Last Run and I could never make that ride ever again. I loved riding the streetcars in Los Angeles.
Love can also be an almost fanatical desire to acheive some result. People in sports, even young kids, love to win and cry when their team looses. Caretakers, police, fireman love to make some positive difference in the world. Love is sometimes selfish and not beneficial to all or it can be magnimonious and be quite dis-attached from the needs of the perpetrator.
I remember Dorothy in TICK TOC OF OZ was adventuring with the Shaggy Man who possess a "love magnet". It woefully backfiled when one race of creatures wanted to eat Dorophy and her entourage. The "love magnet" just brought a response" we would love to eat you".
At at certain level electromagnetic attraction and gravity could be considered love as two things are compelled to be in close proximety. So love can be just a scientific attraction devoid of emotion. Or perhaps we add the emotional level for our own benefit because we are able to sense it. Like humor I think love exists in levels that we can only know at our own level of being.
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Post by clara927 on Jun 14, 2012 2:23:24 GMT
Hello Kaz, I guess I'll start with what i don't believe is love. I don't believe love is an attachment. Love can come along with an attachment, however love is not attachment. Sometimes an attachment can be the opposite of love, not caring for the other person/ their wants and needs and only your own. Also a fanatical desire to achieve a certain result, does not mean love, that's more like control/ obsession. Chemical reactions between people to get us to reproduce do not necessarily equal love, that's more like lust. Not saying that two people in love with each other can't lust for each other, but there has to be something more. I almost feel like love is invisible, unnameable (like the Tao ) I believe a person can go through a range of emotions and still not pinpoint, what "it" is that causes them to be in love or not in love. 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 describes describes some of the characteristics of love, which are not limited to romantic relationships, but I think definitely apply to them as well: "4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 8 Love never fails." This description because it's very beautiful and it rings true in a lot of ways, but it's still very elusive. And I don't know if it describes the full spectrum of intensity behind a man and a woman in love. I could be overthinking it. Maybe, like Gruntal said, it is something like gravity, an unstoppable force that draws two souls together.
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Post by christdavid on Jun 14, 2012 10:00:51 GMT
Love is a emotional state of being. It produces a state of Joy. It is a state absent of fear. What stems from it are "acts of love." Its source is the Creator of all things or God.
There are only two emotions of which you are capable, Love and fear. Only Love is real. Fear seems to exist, but only in the absence of love. Love is to light as fear is to darkness. If you look upon a half moon in the night sky you can see this. Half of the moon is light and half is dark. When the light comes darkness disappears, it has no properties of its own. Another characteristic is that they are totally unaware of each other. They cannot coexist.
In the physical realm the attempt at union of two bodies is often used to describe love. Most often this is an illusion of love held together with magic. It can be an act of love, but is not the only or most important aspect. No act of love is greater or more important than another. Love is not a matter of degree. All "acts of love" are maximal, because of their source.
So to truly be in-love is to be in-light.
Christ David
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Post by Leon on Jun 14, 2012 23:21:37 GMT
Love is the beginning and the end of everything, it is the alpha and omega of life, for without it nothing would live. Without the light of the sun, without love nothing would live. Everything would be in darkness, just the same as with your life, without love you would die inside, life would become meaningless.
Love is the reason behind everything, and when it is lacking, things become empty and shallow. Love is more than an emotion, it is the root of all emotions, all emotional feelings are in balance, they can slide between two ends of a scale, love being one side and no love being the other side. The light and the dark.
Those in the light of love and those not in the light of love, every emotion can be traced back to coming from the light of love or coming to life through a lack of love and understanding.
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Ishtahota
The one question that anwsers all other questions. Who am I?
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Post by Ishtahota on Jun 15, 2012 1:03:02 GMT
The spirits opened my heart one night for about 8 seconds. It felt like a flower had popped out of my chest and I could feel each peddle unfold. I looked around at the world with this new perspective and came to some startling realizations. Love can not be explained with words from one person to the next, it can only be known threw experience. It is a power and a force all of its own. We as human beings know love only by what it is not, because in our present state of consciousness we can not know love at all. We have not a clue.
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Post by christdavid on Jun 15, 2012 9:59:05 GMT
The spirits opened my heart one night for about 8 seconds. It felt like a flower had popped out of my chest and I could feel each peddle unfold. I looked around at the world with this new perspective and came to some startling realizations. Love can not be explained with words from one person to the next, it can only be known threw experience. It is a power and a force all of its own. We as human beings know love only by what it is not, because in our present state of consciousness we can not know love at all. We have not a clue. You made some great points brother. Words are symbols that can mean different things because of "experience." Our language is the "unknown tongues" that the Bible speaks. Spirit speaks a universal language using signs, contrast and, cause and effect. When my brother, Christ Jesus, was in a body he tried to communicate to the disciples spiritual things. Because they had not the experience it was a monumental task. For example, Jesus said, "I am always with you, and My Father and I are one." He was trying to communicate the oneness of Spirit. In that sense God indeed has but one Son. When ask who he was he said, "I am the life." Think about this simple statement. Life is what we are, liken to the Father. How can life die? He said. "I am the light." Light is knowledge. The self we made cannot "know" anything. To know is to be certain, to be certain is to be beyond question. All knowledge is of God. He said, "I am the way." To walk in truth and knowledge is the only way. To say you cannot know love is to say you cannot know yourself. Because I know myself I know you. Love can be felt even in this world. Every loving thought you ever had is eternal. The loving thoughts of God's children are the only reality this world will ever have. What can be real that has no witness? Christ David
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