How Do You Overcome Pain

[Leon]

Do you have any techniques or ideas on overcoming pain, whether it be mental or psychical pain?

Do you focus on anything specific, maybe a mantra, or do you hand it all over to God.

[gatesofgrace]

One needs to consider what might lay beyond conviction... something powerful and beyond provoking. As if in one's peace there could be non peace. Pain has needs relevant to it's attachment. As one is in love but that love is not shared, yields pain. If the one love is bound to the all, where is a place that does not know love? Where is the pain for it has no place to reside?

In the physical, the pain will not last beyond the host. To cling to the host the pain is truly consuming, By letting go(not in death) but in the mystery of the spirit... one regains peace where pain in time is fully consumed.

In one's acceptance pain has no foothold or adversary to rebuke. We have seen this by many souls who have suffered. This one has not witnessed as much, yet the proof remains in the souls who have.

[sparklekaz]

Hi Leon,

I believe there are two types of pain. Physical pain and emotional pain. Physical pain is the bodies way of getting our attention. It is saying, 'hey, something isn't right'. Emotional pain for me is saying the same thing. In both cases, a visit to the doctor should always be your first port of call. Especially if both conditions have been going on for a while.

For some people, they deal with emotional pain, by ignoring it. Pushing it to the back of their minds by detaching from it. This can be dangerous, because though all may seem to be alright on the surface, deep down, whatever it is that is causing that emotional pain is still there, festering away. Recurring again and again, and eventually, I believe, resulting in ill health.

This might be in the form of depression or anxiety, and in some cases can result in a physical illness. I believe, the only way to deal with pain is to face it. Not in a maudlin self obsessed way, but in getting to the root of the problem. This may require a great deal of soul searching and painful self honesty. But I truly believe, that it is only by doing this, can ever be rid of the pain and be able to move on with our lives.

For me personally, I have a strong belief in god. If there is a problem, that I feel I cannot share with anyone, I will talk to God about it. I will try my hardest to find a solution myself but if it is something that I feel is just to big for me to handle, then I offer it up to him. Sometimes we do feel helpless and things can feel overwhelming. I know that God wants what is best for me and ultimately he will help me to find an answer. Even if it is just to guide me in the direction I need to go, to find the help that I need.

There are many avenues we can explore to help us deal with our pain. But the most important thing I feel is to begin the journey of recognition and acknowledgment. There is help out there for people, no one need suffer in silence. I believe, it is only when we do this, that healing will begin to take place.

Love and light
Kaz

[gatesofgrace]

Leon, Kaz

Within the manifestation all manner of things are. Those who witness from within this manifestation are therefore subject to the possibilities that are, or can be. So as the waters are stirred in the manifestation as in this post, one must take into account who is observing. Just as pain has a threshold specific to each host, a manner of attention must give rise to it. Each host is bound to that attention, unless it is moved or redirected.

If, in the first attention we find one's self, in a second attention one is found outside or unattached from that self, and in a third attention even that gives rise to another let's call the "All", whereby what was in the first or second certainly has changed or diminished or perhaps is no longer. An example to consider, is if in the first attention one cries for their son, in the second one cries for all sons, and in the third one no longer resides apart but resides within the son and becomes the son.

So pain remains a conundrum for those in the first attention. Yet, one might contemplate another who resides in the "all" where pain even though has it's foothold and place of account: how many more accounts, perhaps of joy, ecstasy, peace, tranquility, spirit that are equal and/or above the account of pain. Whereby the pain for them, becomes only a small measure diminished or even consumed.

Perhaps this will help in someway!

Blessings!

[sparklekaz]

Dear Gatesofgrace,

I understand where you are coming from with your thought process and do realise that the pain that we feel within ourselves is determined by our own individual response to it. For example the depth of pain someone feels when they are rejected by someone they care for can be caused by past experiences of rejection. Feelings of self worth i.e low self esteem and not believing they are good enough or worthy of love. Both which have nothing to do with what started the pain, but a lot to do with how deeply we feel it.

If we were all in that state of detachment and had the ability to observe rather then be emotionally entangled, life would be a lot simpler. But for the majority of people they are still at that point of learning to interact with others let alone began the slow process of self understanding. With self understanding comes the ability to rise about the cycle of self blame or blame of others.

I personally have found self realization has helped, but still have to work on loving without attachment. It is very difficult not to want to hang on to those that we care for or not to feel pain when someone says something hurtful. It is difficult not to value the opinion of others and to not base our own feelings of self esteem on that value. Loving unconditionally is something I feel we all aim for and understanding that nothing in life is constant, even loving relationships will change, not in a bad way but change they will as everything evolves. That is the only constant in life.

Love and light
Kaz

[gatesofgrace]

May 6, 2012 11:37:56 GMT sparklekaz said:

But for the majority of people they are still at that point of learning to interact with others let alone began the slow process of self understanding. With self understanding comes the ability to rise about the cycle of self blame or blame of others.

sparklekaz,

HHHmmm! So true! In your par., quote above, you point that most are stuck "at that point". An insight further in this, is that most cannot be persuaded to the contrary by external measures as you or i. Seeking must as well come from within.

Pain on the other hand can be used as another tool to let go and expand/diminish the self toward seeking. Even as there are seekers after liberation, it is as you say by the nature of self to deny that journey. Pain has a way to displace the comfort zone realized in this.