unusual experience

[undineworker]

...and boy, am I having them, these days - unusual experiences, I mean!!

Just before I went to sleep last night, when I was in what is known as a hypnogogic state (the state just before going off to sleep is technically known as this) I suddenly saw lots of faces...there was a laughing toddler, a very old wrinkled woman, and a man with a beard.......now, with the use of my pendulum, I have confirmed with spirit that these were all spirits trying to communicate through me!! Is this how it is? I have often seen pictures, but never people....I often hear messages, well, not actually hear, but more find the words appearing in my head as if from nowhere...I know everyone's experience is different....but Leon, I wonder if you would be able to tell me is this how it happens and how can you focus on one spirit to receive a message and pass it on to the relevant person?

I am being very careful to protect myself, and open up and close down after meditation and so far, no negativity has come in. I want to keep it that way!

Love and Light
Lizzie xx

[angelight]

Wow, lizzie it's an exciting time for you!! I'm looking forward to hearing more about your experiences.

Thats one of the ways it started for me, seeing faces before sleep, but unfortunately I knew very little about protection (or anything spiritual at all really!) at that time and wasn't in a very positive place. (so the faces weren't always smiling,lol) So thats why i'm glad you are giving your protection the attention it needs. Well done you!!

Take care and enjoy your journey babe,

Lots of love, Kel xx

[undineworker]

Dear Kel,

do tell me more about how it started for you, so I have an idea what to expect - it is exciting and I feel I am changing every day - I wonder if you could give me a little guidance?

Love and Light
Lizzie xx

[zanna]

Liz my little sweetcheeks. I to had a stage vision this morning (I think) I was shown what appeard to be a set of native indian oracle cards with a face of a native indian on the front. Which was identical to the other new book that I have. Then they where taken away.
What do you think?

God Bless,xxx
ps I have been looking for native oracle cards

[sparklekaz]

Hi Lizzie,

I too have this experience quite often. In fact for last few years. But I don't seem to have moved much forward from this, so I am very interested to hear what Kelly has to say about it.

Lots of love
Karen

[undineworker]

How interesting...I wonder if there isn't a global consciousness at work here, and lots of us have to reach the same stage before we can progress, sharing our experiences and helping each other?

I have found this forum of tremendous help in my spiritual progress and I have to say that my development has really moved forward. Last night when I meditated I got the incredibly cold feeling that there was a spirit with me, but no-one came........perhaps I am being prepared? I do feel that, somehow.

Zanna, I think perhaps you might be in a position to develop these native oracle cards yourself...perhaps as you are so fond of oracle cards, and may I say very good at interpreting them and doing readings, perhaps one of your life's tasks is to develop a native indian version and market them - give it some thought!

Karen, interesting! I do hope Kelly can enlighten us!

Love and Light
Lizzie xx

[zanna]

OOOHHH Liz I got a few goose-bumps as I read your reply. I will ask my guide & see what he says. It's strange though as i could find no oracle cards to do with native indians.

God Bless Hun,xxx

[sunflowerusa]

Zanna remember you were talking about making your own cards in the chat room not long ago? hmmm this about that. hugs jess

[undineworker]

Zanna,

am I psychic?? lol

Lizzie xx

[angelight]

Hi everyone,

Firstly, wow krissy! Let me know how you get on with the oracle cards....that sounds so exciting!

Now to the faces......When I first started seeing faces it was before I really knew much at all about protection or energies, as I said before. At that time in my life I was suffering terribly with depression, anxiety and the like. Usually the visitors were upset, angry or unpleasant. Knowing what I now know, I think these souls were attracted to the negative thought energy I was sending out.

Over about a period of six years I worked through this, the last couple of them by getting healing regularly and working on the self (which I am still doing now,lol, I dont suffer with depression or what I would call anxiety any more, but I have issues with self belief.)

Then about three or four years ago I joined a development circle and that is when I was able to understand what had been going on. Due to the experiences I had in the past its not suprising that it seems to be part of my pathway to help others who are having similar problems, and helping spirit that have found themselves in negative situations.

Anyway, I am sorry if i'm going off on a bit of a tangent, but I am just trying to explain how it went for me, as I dont want to mislead you into thinking that I am more capable than I am at communicating with spirit.

I still see faces or people, in my minds eye, but they are alot more pleasant now, once or twice it has been like i am watching a television, looking at something happening.....not as often as I would like tho and more often than not, as i'm going to sleep rather than when I am working!

Unfortunately I am probably no further on than you with communicating with them or giving messages...I am only right at the beginning and have only given a few practise readings, which i cant just do 'off the cuff', i have to sit and try and tune in fully and prepare myself.

The best advice I think I can give is to just chat with God and your guidance and the spirit concerned, just tell them what you wish for them to do, for example, 'I can only communicate with one of you at a time' and ask your guidance to take charge and organise an orderly queue of spirit who wish to communicate.

The feeling I got when I read about your faces was, that yes they may want to communicate through you in the future, but I felt that they were just popping in and were really excited that you could see them. (Sometimes they whizz past so fast that you can't look at them properly, if this is the case just send out the prayer thoughts letting God and your workers know that they are moving too fast for you to see properly and could they slow it down a bit!)

It must be really exciting for them when they realise that we can see them and that our third eye is opening more.

You said that when you were meditating you got a cold feeling like spirit were there but no-one came forward. This actually suggested to me that spirit were working on your physical, putting things in place to help you as a vessel, to work with spirit. In which case they didnt really come to introduce themselves but rather to carry out a form of healing, and as you said to allow you to feel their presence and to ease you in gently.

When I get the chance, which isnt very often to be honest, I will ask someone for a personal item (jewellrey perhaps?) and when I am alone use it as a focus and ask spirit to come forward. Obviously I protect and ground myself first etc., write down my findings and see if it makes sense to them.

I havnt done very many practise readings and to be honest I should do more. (oh, I also sometimes see shapes and suggestions of things, while recieving thoughts which help me to get the point of what they are trying to get across.)

Well, Lizzie/Karen I hope what I have had to say has been of some use to you, but I feel it was probably stuff you knew already. Sometimes though, just being reminded of certain things is all you need, at least thats what I find.

I will keep reading to see what is happening for you, as it is a very exciting time and maybe reading your experiences will help me in my learning too. Thats wat its all about after all!

Well, take care you guys and good luck with everything,

love, light and all good things,

Kel xx

[sparklekaz]

Dear Kelly,

Thank you for sharing with us your experience and insights. I sense from what you have written that joining your development group was kind of the beginning for you in terms of understanding what had been happening to you. I have recently been asked to join a healing development circle. I already do healing but as you have said before, we are constantly learning and evolving, and the guys who belong to the group are probably much more experienced then I and have loads to share. So I am really looking forward to that. Apart from the fact I will hopefully get to receive some healing myself, which I think I am badly in need of. I seem to have lost the personal motivation to heal myself at the mo, but I hope that will change. Things have got better and I am in a much better place then I was last week, thank god.

Now, the faces, I too have seen them often. Mainly, just before I drop off, this seems to be a pretty popular time, I guess its because we are relaxed and in a receptive state. Also when I meditate, which is not as often as I should, I tend to see them then. They go whizzing by, sometimes slowly, but the minute I try and focus on one face, off it goes. Thankfully, for the main part, they have all been smilers.. Occasionally, I get a nasty looking one, and I have learned to just enforce my own light shield, and I just push them off. It seems to work anyway. I also see different landscapes, and very vivid colors.

Last night, I went to bed early and actually sat upright and meditated I felt my mind quieten down easily, which makes a change. I think the emotional roller coaster I have been on in recent days have actually slowed my mind down. I have been so drained and upset, its as if, my as almost tired itself out, but being so over anxious and overactive. Anyway, it was peaceful. The words that came to me was PURIFICATION. So I asked for it and for healing. I then felt this coldness that Lizzie described, but no tingling. Just a coolness, which felt nice, and calming, soothing. I felt as if I was looking down from a great height and saw this huge statue, I couldn't make out what it was, just that it was pure white, and I was above looking down. I felt very tired after this and went to bed, I had a deep sleep. Today I still felt tired, but calm.

I have found what you have said really useful. Especially the bits about asking them to slow down, and if they would like to communicate maybe one at a time. I often ask for Guidance, and also that I fulfill my full potential. I ask for help, to show me the way, as after all, as you say, we are taking baby steps and need all the help we can get.

Lots of love
Karen

[angelight]

Dear Karen,

I'm really glad that you are starting to feel much better, that really is good news. Joining a circle is always exciting and a great opportunity to learn from others and to share what you know already, be sure to keep me posted on how you get on!

Your meditation sounded wonderful and it seems it was a calming, healing experience that you must of needed. I should do some meditating more often myself, sometimes I am too tired and fall asleep, but sometimes it is more effective. Its been a while since I have had a really deep one with lots going on.

As for the faces...again,lol....I find that even when they have flown past quite quickly, I would still remember quite alot of detail if I were to describe them. And i suppose it's fair to say that not all unpleasant looking faces will be negative....they may have just been butt ugly,lol. (Sorry but you know what I mean!)

I personally think people sometimes make things more complicated than they need to be when working with spirit, just talk to God and guidance like you would your friends, as far as i'm concerned. With love and respect yes, but in a natural manner. Any problems with the way you are working together will eventually be ironed out. Thats my belief anyway.

If you are aware that you are ever not 'feeling yourself' or feeling quite negative and you think you may of picked something up, just start by asking God to send his highest most appropriate workers from the Godlight to assist the soul/being into the Godlight for its own healing. This would apply if you saw a face that you didnt feel comfortable with too. The reason for doing this rather than just strengthening up your protection is, that if they are taken away to the light for healing, that is one less negative being floating about adding to peoples unhappiness.

Just think if we all just took care of our little corner of the world, our homes, and sent away any negative beings/souls that tried to attatch themselves to us, we would help to rid the earth of lots of negativity and send even more energy to the light for recycling!! Surely this would help with getting a better balance in the world?!

I love sharing experiences with you all and reading yours, coz as you said we are all taking baby steps in our development/progression.....maybe we can be each others baby walkers?! lol.

Well, take care Karen (and all) and hopefully we can catch up soon,

Much love and light and positivity!

Kel xx

[undineworker]

Dear Kelly & Karen

wow....what a lot of useful and helpful information!!!

Thank you Kelly for clarifying lots of things for me and helping me to understand where I am at right now. It certainly makes lots of good sound common sense - you are quite right in that people often try to be mystical and this doesnt make sense to me. I am quite a down to earth person and I like to chat to God, yes, as you say, with respect but also like a friend and confidante.

I am interested to note that you consider the coldness is spirit preparing me physically - another thing which only began when I lost lots of weight and began eating lots of fruit and drinking I MEAN TONS of water...........I think water is purifying and cleanses you so that it is easier to communicate - what do you think? I also feel that I can now easily ask for clarification - oddly enough, I was told by someone that I shouldnt always try to meditate in the lotus position, and my knees were hurting me alot so I stopped doing this, and ever since I stopped using the lotus position my meditation experiences have been blah! I think the position is right for me, and the hurting knees, well, who knows what causes them?? I also understand that you have to be integrated and whole as a person to be able to do any kind of lightwork, and that is certainly something which is happening for me. I am able to really assimilate all sorts of nastiness and hurt which has happened to me in the past and now feel happier and more confident as a person - perhaps this will help me to receive more spiritual guidance.

Karen, amazing meditation - I wonder if your statue was Egyptian?? food for thought.

Love and Light
Lizzie xx

[angelight]

Hello Lizzie,

I am so pleased to have helped, it feels really nice!

I really wish i could be more disciplined in my eating habits and some of my other bad habits, I have come really far but still have a LONG way to go! Its really interesting that you have just noticed these different feelings since you started eating better and drinking loads of water.

Do you take cod liver oil for your sore knees? Just wondered as I know it can help alot. Oh, I also meant to ask, have you tried meditating sitting upright in a chair with a high back, like a dining table chair (with your palms up and your feet on the ground.) This can be quite effective.

You know, come to think of it, I dont think that I have tried meditating in the lotus position.....I might just give it a whirl!

Cheers babe, speak soon,

Kel xx

[angelight]

NOTE TO SELF: Must drink more water. Lol. xx

[sunflowerusa]

Hi Lizzie! When I was reading your post and got to the part about your knees hurting, your bike poped into mind, maybe you need to adjust the height of your seat. Lotus position is great and after all we came into this world from our moms tummy( usaully in lotus) I dont think it matters what position you meditate in. I feel your energy Lizzie, your spiritual growth is of lighting speed!! I wish I could be more consistant as you!!!! Bless You!! Love and Light!!! jess

[undineworker]

Dear Kel, you are disciplined in lots of ways I am not....the water is a must, I really feel this, and things have moved so fast for me since my diet has improved that I feel almost as if the physical side of me has helped to help the emotional and spiritual side, if you understand what I mean. I have tried meditating upright, but it is really just simply not convenient for me, as bed is my refuge, mentally, spiritually physically! So I always meditate in bed, using a pillow as a prop under me, which aids my lotus position simply because I am still a little overweight to achieve a proper lotus........cod liver oil is interesting, because I keep getting this urge to eat fish all the time...I had three tins of sardines for my tea last night!! Tuna for my lunch today....the universe is looking after me - I never take supplements but think all our nutrition should come from good healthy food....myself and my health food store owner are bosom buddies! lol. I must try soya yoghurts, never tried them, but I have the urge to...anyone tried humus? Tried it at a taster stand in our local supermarket on Friday night, wow, luvverly stuff...made from chick peas and onions...great on pitta bread and really LOW IN CALORIES. Great stuff.

Jess, thanks for your kind words, you are sweet. I think going over lots of hard bumpy roads has something to do with this, and you could be right about the seat, its pretty tough going sometimes, especially after my experience of Friday....I intend to look after myself much better and go along by-roads instead....there is a lovely run to work by our beautiful river, the last time I went that way, a wonderful heron was standing by the banks of the river watching me...an amazing sight, and so peaceful and serene...always had a thing about herons, i love them.

Love and Light

Lizzie xx

[zanna]

I had a wonderful experience yesterday when we had that strong wind. I was stood by my bedroom window, watching the poor tree's being batterd. I closed my eye's & asked for calm, then I felt a very strong energy around me very loving and just for a breif moment the wind did calm. Maybe I should of stayed longer!

Im not 100% sure of what or who it was but it was there, maybe the spirit of the tree picked up my thoughts & returned their energy to me?


God Bless,xxx

[angelight]

That sounded a great experience krissy. You know that i feel nature is the next step on my pathway, so it particularly interested me. Am looking forward to exploring different things....it's exciting.

xx p.s i have just bought the Brian Froud Faeries Oracle Cards.....they are great.....am going to have a good old look later tonight. Much love xxx

[undineworker]

whilst drinking lots of water, I hope Kelly!! lol.

I had an unusual experience last night, when I decided to meditate in the lotus position again after a break....my knees didnt hurt at all, so I guess that has resolved itself for the time being anyway. Oddly, I felt that there was something Egyptian going on....I cant quite place it, but I saw the pyramids, and I feel maybe I was in empathy with our Karen? what do others think? she is there right now, you know.

Love and Light
Lizzie xx

[angelight]

Maybe you are with her in spirit Lizzie.....literally, lol.

xx

[zanna]

Hi everyone. I spoke to a friend of mine who is quite spiritualy minded and I told him of my experience with telling the wind to calm. It turned out that he did exactly the same as I did & it worked for him too!

God Bless,xxx

[undineworker]

wow, perhaps you have an affinity with nature and you can tune in to certain natural energies. I saw the sickle moon - the new moon on my way home from work tonight, and off to one side were some strange lights....three little ones in a triangle shape, they were not a plane and did not move for the ten minutes I watched them....no star, either...I wonder what they were? any ideas?

Love and Light
Lizzie xx