Law of Attraction, Energy Interaction and Detachment, Part 1

[tribunalofmercy]

Isn’t it easy to feel misunderstood? To become angry, disappointed, frustrated by the words and actions of others? I have heard some lament that it seems Much easier for negative thoughts or emotions to ‘catch on’ among a group of people than positive ones, but I wonder if it is only because we are temporarily more attuned to the negative ones….




I have talked somewhere in here before about Law of Attraction as my guide first shared with me outside my doorstep one day, when my neighbor’s energy-thoughts of a steak were acknowledged by my own mind; I touched on the difference between having energy sent Out to us, and our Receiving it, often by whether the energy-idea, or the energy-emotion, is something that is interesting to us in the First place. (not unlike parents watching commercials: perhaps a commercial for singles bars would not be interesting, but one advertising a family-friendly park or eatery may be much more appealing!)




I was at a community yard sale last year (I love yard sales, lol) and tried to purchase something from a couple of youngsters who seemed not at All willing to sell a certain item to me. The negative energy was Palpable throughout the conversation though I had approached them smiling and quite willing to pay their asking price. I waited for nearly half an hour before being able to buy it and left feeling uncomfortable by the experience, somehow…




This was one of the first times I Noticed the way energy is sent and received in interactions where Law of Attraction did not automatically put two similar energies together….I was Not either consciously or subconsciously angry prior to that experience or even in General, so the negative energy sent out by the two young men landed on my outer self and sat there, subtly suggesting that I bring it in for a Closer examination, lol. …In other words, that I become ‘angry’ at what I had experienced, how I had been treated.




(It’s amazing, and I wish I could put up a diagram here of how I experience the process of ‘wave potential’ becoming ‘wave actual’, driven by the decisions within Intent, so that the manifested form of the negative energy would have been Anger, if I had chosen that path by my intent. )      I Saw it, and was Amazed. And laughed…I said to the negative energy, ‘You are Not Mine. I do not Want you!’, and away it went!




Recognizing energy-actions is another way of explaining Detachment; there are ways for us to know ourselves better; to choose our affectations as we perceive them beneficial or not; to become, and remain, unaffected by the actions or remarks of others, or the emotions that swirl around us in life. It has been quite liberating for me so far, though I have a long way to go.
 


Love and Wisdom,

Mary Anne

[donq]

Hi Mary Ann,


It seemed you were talking about Buddhist mindfulness. :-)


To brief it a bit here: we observe our own thoughts. Whatever thought has arisen when we come to contact to the outside and/or when we contact to the inside (another thought/feeling of our own), we observe them AND let them go. The funny thing, or a paradox, is when you intend to watch your thought, it will never arise and we would never saw it. But when it arises, we forget to observe it!

In Physics (on level of sub-atom observation), it also got the same paradox which is called “superposition.” (Try to Google on Schrödinger's cat, a thought experiment, if you are interested in this) or some kind of a cliché “you can't have your cake and eat it (too) or "you can't eat your cake, and have it too"? :-)


Ok, let’s forget about that cat but go back to our thought observation. How could we “see” our own thinking/thought? The tactic is “participation”. To let out though arise, to observe it!


In Buddhism, we use some “base” such as breathing etc. Whenever we think, we will forget something else (and vice versa). So, if we are observing our breathing (mindfulness of breathing), whenever our thoughts arise, we will forget (observing) our breathing. And after practicing like that for some time, the interconnectedness between our thought (thinking) and breathing observation will happen like an infinite chain. And we will see each and everyone of our own thought (even we always saw it AFTER it already arose.)

Anyway, there are also other factors involving. For example, in your case, no way we could know for sure what those two youngsters really thought and felt. I mean, yes, the negative energy you got might be true but from what reason? In might be that they normally were nice kids, but also got some bad day on that
very day? etc. But again, they might be really not the nice kids. We will never know for sure even the negative energy we got were real.

P.S. It’s dawn here and I haven’t slept yet. Sorry if I wrote something roundabout.

[tribunalofmercy]

(see why I missed you? we simply Must talk quantum physics sometime...I have a mantra on another site that because of my bipolar disorder I AM Schrodinger's Cat, lol)


It is said here that "A watched pot never boils" - so perhaps a watched Thought never comes to fruition? Yet I understand what you describe so well - breathing forgets thought, and thought forgets breathing, until synchronization...of course I have not really thought about that "infinite chain", and in my mind that is actually Helping me prepare for the next mindfulness


I have a hard time Not 'telling stories' when I want to talk about something, but yes, breaking down whether the young boys were thinking one thing or another distracts from my point, so I do not always do myself any favors by telling stories, lol - I think the point is the recognition of energy interactions in various situations, and my "Part 2" will be about "what happens when it IS mine?" (my energy issue, and I receive it into myself)


I hope you can sleep now
Mary Anne

[donq]

Hi Mary Anne, "

You said:

...what happens when it IS mine?" (my energy issue, and I receive it into myself)

Yes, it was very good point! I think the meaning of spirituality is to deal with that very energy issue (within oneself).

Sorry that I have to mention about mindfulness here again. After we observe and see our own thoughts deeper and deeper, we will find that there’s nothing in it (our thought) except the surge of inner energy, from (or between) itself and/or from without. As you are going to start Part 2, so I will say only the energy from within ourselves here.

A shrink calls it such and such complex of unconsciousness. What is it within our unconsciousness? Could we really look into it, inside ourselves and find something there? (without lying on that couch :-)

Anyone who is into spiritual practice has to deal with this issue. If s/he got such and such emotion at time A, will it produce the same emotion (its effect) at time B, and on and on? Or it might cause another kind of emotion? How could Posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD) be cured? Is it really “psychic” trauma? (in the sense that very painful situation was already gone for a long time).

It seems we really need Wigner's friend! :-)

[tribunalofmercy]

Thank you Monty


Before I go on to the next part I again want to qualify something about fractal thinking (with yet another story!), because it applies to nearly Everything I will ever write. (Monty, you are a fractal thinker – no matter what we Call this type of thinking – so I know you would understand, but I add this for the benefit of all) I have thought fractally all of my life; goodness knows it was not a Developed skill, as I have already mentioned I spent the majority of my life ‘undisciplined’…still I am now learning to use this way of thinking to understand how I can bring All parts of my life-experience into view, and thus under control .


‘Comparing seemingly unrelated issues’ is often an elusive concept to us, in our fractured way of thinking…harder than it Looks, lol. It brings to mind three friends who met once for tea. The first one, a new mother, commented that she had been losing sleep lately. “Junior cries all night long; he needs to be fed, to be held, to be rocked – I am not getting Any sleep!” The other two, being childless, commiserated with her, saying “Oh, how awful; I do hope you will soon be getting more sleep!” And they sat thoughtfully, sipping their tea.


Soon the second one said, “You know, my cat has been coming into my room every night for a Week now, jumping up on the bed and meowing for attention. I cannot tell what she wants but she is So persistent; I am just not able to get Any sleep!” And the other two, not owning cats themselves, commiserated with her and said, “Oh, how Awful; I do hope she will soon go back to her prowling and let You get some Sleep!” And again they sat thoughtfully, sipping their tea.


Before too long the third friend said, “I have had problems myself lately. My dog Rover has decided that he needs to be Walked in the middle of the night! Every night now, around 3:30 or 4:00AM he will come into the bedroom dragging his leash and whine until I wake up and take him for a walk. I cannot get Any good sleep!” The other two friends, not being dog-owners, commiserated and said, “Oh, how Awful; I do hope he will learn to wait until morning so you can get some Sleep!” And thoughtfully they sipped their tea.


Now this story may seem a bit Obvious, but the problem lies in fractal thinking – or the lack of it – because none of the three friends saw the correlations between their problems or realized they could Learn something about late-night issues in general if they put their heads together and discovered a Solution.


Part 2 of energy-interactions tomorrow.

[donq]

That was great writing (and meaning), Mary Ann.

It reminds me of some work of Dr. Milton H. Erickson, the father of medical hypnosis.
Let me add some of his writing here:

“A man came rushing around the corner of a building and bumped hard against me as I stood bracing myself against the wind. Before he could recover his poise to speak to me, I glanced elaborately at my watch and courteously, as if he had inquired the time of day, I stated “It’s exactly 10 minutes of two,” although it was actually closer to 4:00 p.m., and I walked on. About a half a block away I turned and saw him still looking at me, undoubtedly still puzzled and bewildered by my remark.

(my note-the first time I read this, around 20 years ago, I laughed out loud :-)

“I continued on my way to the laboratory and began to puzzle over the total situation and to recall various other times I had made similar remarks to my classmates, laboratory mates, friends, and acquaintances and the resulting confusion, bewilderment, and feeling of mental eagerness on their part for some comprehensible understanding. Particularly did I recall the occasion on which my physics laboratory mate had told his friends that he intended to do the second (and interesting) part of a coming experiment and that he was going to make me do the first (and onerous) part of that experiment. I learned of this, and when we collected our experimental material and apparatus and were dividing it up into two separate piles, I told him at the crucial moment quietly but with great intensity, “That sparrow really flew to the right, then suddenly flew left, and then up, and I just don’t know what happened after that.” While he stared blankly at me, I took the equipment for the second part of the experiment and set busily to work, and he, still bewildered, merely followed my example by setting to work with the equipment for the first part of the experiment. Not until the experiment was nearly completed did he break the customary silence that characterized our working together. He asked, “How come I’m doing this part? I wanted to do that part. “To this I replied simply, “It just seemed to work out naturally this way.”

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It really seems to work out naturally that way. Every time we heard stories in the real life, we are unconsciously in the trance. The problem is, for example, after we heard a story A, we are in the trance because of the story A? Or we were thinking about story B before we heard story A? You post about those three friends hinted that.

P.S. Why I have a feeling that the third friend was a man? :-)

[tribunalofmercy]

I laughed too...that's Funny

You saw something important in the story that I was not alluding to, lol - it is the Mercury retrograde and I suppose I might be mis-communicating sometimes However, I know what you are talking about because I have done that often in the past and had to Teach myself to slow down, listen carefully to the other person, consider their words and Not think about what "I" am going to say next, you know? (bipolars have to be very careful of this because we have busy minds, lol)


My thinking is something I go through, and have trouble with, just as most people do: remember the story of Helen Keller when her teacher tried to find a way to Communicate with her and show her how Others learn and communicate? The first thing that registered in her mind about Words, and communication, was "water", but that was not the first thing the teacher had Tried to show her; it was also not the first time her teacher had tried to show her what Water was.

Sometimes I think everything is really all just One big lesson (haven't I said this before?) and God shows it to us, over and over again, a million ways and more, until finally there is a Light Bulb that goes off in our minds and we think, like Helen Keller did, 'Oh - that is Water! There is a word for Water!' - except for us, it is Truth "Oh - this is Truth!"



A man goes to a very emotional Church service and hears a sermon about Love; because of that, he figures out he should Love his family better, spend more time with them, etc and so he goes home to start Doing that. But on the way home he shouts at the bad drivers around him; he also shouts at his neighbor because his neighbor is outside throwing rocks or something...then his own dog jumps on him and he yells at the dog for doing that.

In Church the man learned about Love but only thought to apply it One way - to his family. God shows us about things in Many ways until we figure out, "Oh - I am supposed to love Everyone the Same."



Not all the lessons are about love, lol. But when we learn One part, there is always Another part to be learned. For example, when I learned about the energy that was Not mine, up there in my original story, I had not yet learned about how to deal with energy that Was mine. So I will talk about that next.


(really? Was the third friend a man? Since it is a made-up story, I guess he Could be) (Not many women name their dog Rover, I bet)

[donq]

Hi Mary Anne,

I was thinking about the law of attraction. It’s about the like attracts the like, right? How come? As for something that is good at attraction, like magnet, isn’t it contrary? Doesn’t anode attract only cathode and repel another anode? And vice versa.

As everyone here knows well that human mentality doesn’t work that way. It seems the more we depress, the more we attract depressing situation. And the more we happy, the more we attract happiness.

Again, it doesn’t seem to be that way all the time. Let’s look at spiritual history, say, Jesus and Buddha, to name but a few. No question that their state of mind were enlightened. Then, why they still attracted dangerous and harmful persons to them? Ok, at least, more than normal people.

I’m just thinking and I don’t know the answer.

P.S. As for Dr. Erickson's story. It was about his induction technique called "confusion technique". He explained about "common everyday trance" that it was so natural. But most of them (common everyday trance) could make people sad or happy. So, he used this as one of his many techniques to help his patience.

[sparklekaz]

Dear Mary Anne,

I often wonder just how much of our feelings and thoughts are actually ours, so sensitive and easily affected are we by the energetic vibrations other people emanate. I've seen kirlian photographs of people in different emotional states. It's fascinating to look at images of two people who are attracted to each other. To see how their energy shoots out as long tendrils, curling itself around the object of their affections. The colours pulsating and vivid, caught up in a harmonic dance. Drawing the two people together in an embrace, even though they are not physical touching. That is why I believe that two people experiencing instant attraction, often feel as if they have 'known the other' for ever. They feel so natural and comfortable together.

So for me it is easy to understand why we are so affected by the negative emanations from other people. Anger, rage, resentment, discontent - can touch us equally as powerfully. When those emotions are felt so strongly by another person. How often do people take their inner frustration on others. People talk about their feelings 'spilling over' which to me sounds like a metaphor for all that unhappiness that they can no longer contain within their own auric space pouring out and carrying others away in our emotional flood.

I used to believe that being troubled by the thought states and emotions of others was entirely an empathic experience. As in experiencing something that is not ours and learning to differentiate between the two. But now I am not so sure. And believe to a degree, that when we are touched by it in others, maybe it ignites and amplifies within us, our own negative feelings. Otherwise we would not be able to feel it as we do. For example, a self realized person who has worked through and resolved their own issues and is no longer troubled by feelings of low self esteem, inadequacy or unfulfillment emits an energy freqency, of a higher vibration. And is no longer affected by the negativity of others.

Whether or not what we are feeling is ours our anothers. Or we are projecting our own feelings and insecurities onto another and imagining we know exactly what they are thinking. The reality is we don't know and must consider it is our own negative thoughts about ourselves that is responsible for it. I still believe that what arises should be examined. Questions asked of ourselves. Why do I feel this way. They say that everyone we meet is a mirror. That those people who we struggle with and who evoke in us uncomfortable feelings, are trying to bring something to our attention, to be worked through and resolved.

You often speak of fractal thoughts, by this do you mean that you see the connections between what appears to be on the surface to have nothing in common or unrelated? Is it a bit like going off on a tangent. Where what you say seems to be unconnected, but in your mind they are. Because the one thought sends you off in the direction of another? Just asking, because if that is the case, the next time someone accuses me of dizzily jumping from topic to topic, I can say it's because I'm a fractal thinker.

Love and light
Kaz

[aceofcups]

hello Monty.... here are my thoughts and understandings ... i liked your inquiries in this string about attraction and repulsion a few posts back,, two laws of energy.. Hermetic and other esoteric philosophy understands that energy does not work the same on all levels (laws themselves are different or in this case contrary ),,, and that we are multidimensional (leveled) beings ,,, to me that is part of mystery you touched upon.

About the enlightened beings Jesus and Buddha both of them and their teachings have certainly attracted many many.. But their "intentions" in their life from the stories was to be spiritual servers for humanity. In that light they attracted many to them who are karmically unbalanced let's say... and they were serving them to become more balanced eventually as souls.


just my thoughts

peace
aceofcups

[donq]

Hi Karen,

I’m going to bore you again by my compliment. But that was really a wonderful post!

I love this the most:

“…And believe to a degree, that when we are touched by it in others, maybe it ignites and amplifies within us, our own negative feelings. Otherwise we would not be able to feel it as we do. For example, a self realized person who has worked through and resolved their own issues and is no longer troubled by feelings of low self esteem, inadequacy or unfulfillment emits an energy frequation at a higher vibration. And is no longer affected by the negativity of others.”

P.S. I like your kidding about a fractal thinker. Nice one! It really made me smile. :-)

[donq]

Hi Ace,

...energy does not work the same on all levels (laws themselves are different or in this case contrary).

Very well put, Ace.

It's so true! It reminds me of two (seems to be contradiction with each other) sayings, even each of them is true: Time and tide wait for on man versus Slowly but surely. Yes, it still depends on its context, too.

Thanks Ace.

[cyberangel]

Hi All

I thought I would enter into the discussion if I may also I really liked and could relate so much to what Kaz wrote in her above reply...

Kaz Said: "I often wonder just how much of our feelings and thoughts are actually ours, so sensitive and easily affected are we by the energetic vibrations other people emanate. I've seen kirlian photographs of people in different emotional states. It's fascinating to look at images of two people who are attracted to each other. To see how their energy shoots out as long tendrils, curling itself around the object of their affections. The colours pulsating and vivid, caught up in a harmonic dance. Drawing the two people together in an embrace, even though they are not physical touching. That is why I believe that two people experiencing instant attraction, often feel as if they have 'known the other' for ever. They feel so natural and comfortable together."

I have seen for myself these energies and they are so beautiful, thankfully I have only seen the positive ones and never actually seen a negative energy, but I certainly have felt them.

Kaz also said: "I used to believe that being troubled by the thought states and emotions of others was entirely an empathic experience. As in experiencing something that is not ours and learning to differentiate between the two. But now I am not so sure. And believe to a degree, that when we are touched by it in others, maybe it ignites and amplifies within us, our own negative feelings. Otherwise we would not be able to feel it as we do. For example, a self realized person who has worked through and resolved their own issues and is no longer troubled by feelings of low self esteem, inadequacy or unfulfillment emits an energy frequation at a higher vibration. And is no longer affected by the negativity of others."

I really agree with that and can absolutely relate to the higher vibrations...I have often spoke about these higher vibrations, be it from spirit or from oneself.

I have been using the Law of Attraction for some months now and all I can say is that it confirmed what I always believed to be true and Monty touched on it in one of his replies and I always say that "what we think - we attract".

Our thoughts are so powerful, even the random ones. They send out and receive constantly...think of us like little transmitters and receivers and the universe is all seeing and all hearing, and is constantly providing us that which matches our vibrations.

But getting back to negative energies for a moment...if ones energy is of low vibration...wouldn't it make sense that we would pick up only the vibrations we are closest to? I think it is impossible to tune into anything unless we also match that same frequency in some way...be it positive or negative. Now how we view these energies or vibrations has a lot to do with it too. I don't believe that all positive energies and all negative energies are necessarily good or bad, its how 'WE' perceive them to ourselves that matters.

I received a prayer chain letter a while ago...with a threat attached that said if I don't pass on this letter to so many friends within a certain amount of time...then I will receive blah blah blah...so after reading the letter I was initially angry and disappointed with the person who sent this to me (negative energy impact)...but then I stopped to think about it. She did it this out of fear and probably did not mean any harm by it, she was just following what others had done before her. Now, did I want to pass on this fear based (low vibration)onto my friends and possibly panic or frighten them and therefore add myself to this energy (karma)...no of course not. I also realised I had a choice in this...that the real power of this letter was not with what was wrote inside but what I chose to do with it. So I ripped it up and burnt it...I ripped it to cut all the cords attached to it (symbolic but with intention) then I burnt it to destroy the letter and it doing so I felt I did the right thing and that I took control of not spreading fear on, and that made me feel real good and I felt strong and in control (raising my vibrations). So you could say I took a negative and made a positive for myself. 

Now I could explore further to see what vibration I had first given off in order to receive the letter in the first place but why bother, the real 're-action' was how I chose to react or not react as the case may be.

Someone has just called around so I have to go now...I will conclude later sorry. Love and light

[donq]

Hi all,

Karen said, "...And is no longer affected by the negativity of others."

Lorraine said, "So you could say I took a negative and made a positive for myself."

Ace said, "But their "intentions" in their life from the stories was to be spiritual servers for humanity."

My summary from all my dear friends above is:

"Negative of others is no longer affected (from Karen's), and one could take a negative and made a positive (out of it) for oneself (from Lorraine's) because one's "intention" in one life matters. If one's intention is good, to serve for humanity etc.(adopted from Ace's), then one could turn any negativity into positivity.

:-)

[tribunalofmercy]

@ Kaz – yes, what a beautiful post I believe our ‘empathy’ in connecting to the thoughts and emotions of others is not limited to empaths but is part of our evolutionary process of recognizing energy weaving itself around, through and into All things, connecting us and making us increasingly aware of All energy that is ultimately joined together….and as to your ‘fractal thinking’? THAT’S IT, lol *throws confetti*


We see the flower grow, and we stop to think of how Trees also grow…and how children grow…..then how mankind has Grown, and evolved, etc – the microcosmic weaves into the macrocosmic and we see correlations in Everything – so when you are seeming to ‘leap from one point to another point’, that is fractal thinking!


Ace has a very good explanation of the dimensional differences between magnetism and gravitational understandings, as we perceive Everything in ‘fractured’ form, for all is still compressed within the boundaries of 3rd and 4th dimensions to our perception of ‘how things work’ – it is still linear thinking on our part, as we see the interaction of magnets that repel and attract on each ‘end’ of the magnet, but magnets are only Part of the Whole…the Whole, is Spherical, and we will soon see how All things are joined in their way as they interact – One way, and Another way, within the Whole.


We attempt to think ‘outside the box’, but it becomes a natural direction for us to then perceive yet Another box – bigger than the first one, of course, but still another Box. It is how science has evolved…and math….and language….etc
It becomes time to Let Go….there IS no box.

These are the times when I want to dance