Human Beings Having A Spiritual Experience.. or?

[sparklekaz]

One of my favourite quotes is by Neale Donald Walsch. "You Are a Spiritual Being Having a Human Experience". I remember reading this years ago, and it really gave me one of those Aah Haa moments. It created a shift in my thinking that opened my mind. Instead of thinking I had to change who I was, I realised I just had to re connect with who I 'really' was. If this is my authentic self, then to grow spiritually, I simply had to peel away all those things that were not intrinsically part of me. And so my journey began towards self realisation.

We all experience the imperfections that come with the territory of being human. Oftentimes, we feel like tremendously limited, ordinary people who enjoy occasional moments of spirituality. It’s certainly not easy to practice spotless ways of living all the time so we’re sure to slip up and have days when our attitude is more than a little self-defeating. We are humans trying to remember who we are in spirit and practice spirituality despite all the distractions that aren't present in heaven. It can be overwhelming to say the least.

What are your thoughts on this? Do you feel that we are spiritual beings having a human experience? If you believe something else, what do you believe? What do you find helps you on your spiritual path? What have you learned about yourself?

[Ishtahota]

Finding authentic self is the journey and changing how we think is the key to this. No one is coming to save us because we are the ones that we have been waiting on. Heaven is not a reward for people who live a good life, it is a state of consciousness that we can bring on here and now if we are willing to do the work. The Garden of Eden is not a place on this Earth, it is the whiole Earth and it is our change in consciousness that will make it bloom. We create all of the time and we have yet to wake up and see the horror that we are responsible for.

[gruntal]

As a kid I was truly disgusted by the antics of my class mates. I thought their stupidity and self destructive antics were sure to back fire on them and yet they went right on acting like that. I never felt I had a lot in common with kids my own age in the beginning. But the adults were manipulative or slaves to their own system and lacked spontaneity. It's as if you went from being savage to civilized but still didn't get the point. What was that third alternative?

Back then it wasn't clear if I was ahead of my time or just a nice little boy or so pathologically shy I couldn't live right. Being disgusted doesn't really lead to opportunities - it does make you an outcast supreme! Slowly it dawned on me acting out my best intentions would exact a great price and all for nothing. But it was the only way I could live with myself.

As above so below. We have learned so much chemistry and physics and realize those things are immutable. When it comes to behavior we still think we can throw out all the rules. I wonder? Is everything in the Cosmos absolute and if so why? Assuming life was just a discovery of what worked and did not work then the only choice you had was accepting that.

I admit that is a pretty cold blooded description of spirituality but it still at least admits it does exist. And can't be denied. Nor can it be disowned.

Are we all infected by the G*d virus ? Is there no cure? Does it lead to death forever or just a death of things discarded when trashed? I do know in my old age you will never know by being morbid. But I still feel it is there between having fun and just surviving.

[Smeets]

I just touched on this a bit in a post called Your Voice in the Spiritual - God Light thread.

We are both speaking the truth but it seems we are getting there in different ways.

But the main question we are raising is.... is something missing?

[clara927]

Hello Kaz,

This is interesting because I was just having a conversation with someone who believes that the soul dies with the body. I dont think of the soul as dying with our bodies, I dont think I ever have, though I tried to entertain the thought in that conversation. She talked about the soul being different from the spirit but I think that is just splitting hairs. If your soul dies with your body, that kind of worship doesnt make much sense becasue your worshipping an eternal God but denying your own "eternalness". I dont know it just made me go ever some of the beliefs Ive held in the past. I feel like if our souls arent eternal than by logic, the God who made us isnt eternal. I dont know I feel like sometimes, stict religiousity breeds athiesm and rebelion. Im going off topic, but to answer your question, as far as what I know now, I feel that we are souls having a human experience.

Thank you for posing the question Kaz