What Are We Really Like ?

[gruntal]

Attending a local seance I was able to have a very short conversation with Mother and Grandmother. Apparently I am able to do that on my own too but very rarely. It is easier to go thru a Medium but then how can you trust what you hear? Sometimes it doesn't even sound like the people you knew although admittedly it might have been 60 or 70 years since the last visit.

But then the physical can be almost overwhelming. People sometimes die very bad deaths of cancer. The sickness makes life very serious. The morphine shots for pain can warp your personality even if you can still think straight. At least in Heaven you are finally free.

Well not exactly. People can elect to sort of stay behind and maybe nurse old grudges. Or maybe stay out of a sense of duty. Either way you still carry a burden or let yourself be ruled by fear. One thing I am certain of: the dead no longer have physical addictions.

Channeling an Ascended Master is less confusing. They are beyond personalities although They can still be either Male or Female at any one point in time. Same person and same advice but from different angles.

I am amazed how I can remember things 65 years ago in such detail. What it easily forgotten is what I was back then and how I must have viewed the world as a kid. Assuming you could access past lives the problem only gets worse: you might have been quite the scoundrel in the past. Or in my case even a girl although I shudder at the thought of that. Either way you must have processed information much differently even as you must have been a whole different sight and image to the others in the past.

The whole idea - the very concept - of growth and regeneration leading to perfection does have a melancholy side effect. You are only going to go down this path once and what you leave behind is lost. At one level I am sure it will be a huge "Good Riddance". But at another level it must have some sentimental value. A life lived you won't relive ever again. A personality you grew out of you won't experience again.

It will always be a part of you but it will never be the true you ever again.

[sparklekaz]

Hi George,

That was a really interesting read. You have a very unique way of putting your thoughts across, which does make a lot of sense. I wonder if the more self aware we become in this life, the higher the chances of remembering some of it in the next.

Strangely enough, I was thinking about this the other day. How when I die I will forget all of this. I found it sad to think I might forget my kids, my parents. Hopefully, I will see them again in the afterlife. But if I am reborn, it will be as if they never existed. And I find that very sad. But I suppose if I have lived thousands of lives, there must be thousands of children, parents, siblings and friends I have loved and forgotten. Yes, what do you think. The more we savour and try to understand all our experiences now. Does that heighten the chance of remembering, next time around?

Love and light
Kaz

[gruntal]

As I understand you almost unendingly incarnate as a group until you just outgrow each other. But the roles get reversed. So you might take turns being parent or child; husband - wife or siblings. To continue your progress or mindset you just need to think it isn't over yet in any given life time. It will continue in the next. That will probably include family and friends if they are willing.

Unfortunately it works both ways. Grudges and villains keep popping up over lives if you think you need revenge. They will come back to haunt and harass. But it is never an unending spiral.

[aceofcups]

My Two cents--

I agree with Gruntal from my experiences and understanding,,, that inner Soul groups are formed... and we are connected to a group of people over various lifetimes playing different parts.   Usually very close friends and family members have many times incarnated together as part of our Soul-Group.  They pick different lives to incarnate together.  Our Soul remembering is much wider and deeper then our personality remembrances. And I agree that we play different roles and genders over multiple lifetimes is how we learn and evolve. Sometimes even close friends in one lifetime can consciously choose to be our nemesis in another incarnation to help us both to learn. This is all worked out from a Higher level of consciousness as part of our pre-planning before each new incarnation with inner teachers and guides and fellow Soul group members.

The stages after death of the personality and life between lives is worked out according to the evolutionary stage of development of the Soul in question. So where and how long a Person exists on different inner planes of consciousness and where they exist varies also to a degree.

The personality we take for a new life usually forgets the details of former existences... but the karmic seeds ( both beneficial and difficult patterns) of those former lifetimes are still held in our Soul consciousness.  And they get timely reawakened in different cycles of our life and when those relationships come into our personality life this time around.  Or it could be both old and new lessons and teachings our Soul's need to learn to evolve.

The people ( Souls) we have strong love or hatred towards usually stay with us over multiple lifetimes until those energy patterns have fulfilled there process for all involved.

peace
aceofcups

[hera]

SparkleKaz you said -

Strangely enough, I was thinking about this the other day. How when I die I will forget all of this. I found it sad to think I might forget my kids, my parents. Hopefully, I will see them again in the afterlife. But if I am reborn, it will be as if they never existed

Read more: spiritualforum.me.uk/thread/6830?page=1#ixzz5ADvkpGsv,

As I understand it SparkleKaz, time as we know it here on earth is a purely man made concept which we use for practical purposes, but which becomes unnecessary and non-existent when we move on to other planes, so you would be with your loved ones when you move on, even if some of them may have temporarily come back for further incarnational experiences.

[gruntal]

It is suggested we exist simultaneously in all our states and incarnations. But it appears to us as time when it is merely an unfolding awareness. So maybe it isn't so much the world goes by as it is we notice things more and more and it is really us that is traveling. If so then at some level there are no close friends and family and all is one. But at another level we possess and nurture what we are most familiar with. Starting with ourselves.

The Rosicrucians believe very strongly in duality as an explanation of every manifestation. Of course duality has no more existence then a beggar's crutch after the healing occurs. But it was utterly indispensable at the time ...