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Post by cliff on Jan 11, 2018 12:04:52 GMT
Humans have been here on earth a very long time . And since we have we have seen no end of conflict wether in a large it small scale . Humanity has seen much suffering and we know no matter how much we try and educate people that hurting others is wrong , that we will still continue to war with each other in future years .
The reason for this goes back to what I have said in other posts about free will . We don't have free will so God and the angels are causing all the war and struggle in our world .
We know this must be true because God and the angels are powerful enough to stop us from harming each other so why don't they . It's because they need us to learn from this suffering and repay karmic debts .
God is very powerful and can stop us from doing wrong . So he allows it for karmic purposes only for learning .
This also takes me back to a scene from.the film Jesus of nazereth . When Jesus said do not think I have come to bring peace . Instead I come with a sword .
This means we are here to learn from.the sword . From darkness so that we may earn peace and happiness in heaven when we return
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Post by gruntal on Jan 11, 2018 17:26:17 GMT
An interesting speculation is if God could change what He had already created. If so then that meant He could also denounce Himself. It would appear even God can not change the laws of chemistry and physics once created. But then why did He create things that He must have known would turn sour? Did He not know before hand? I thought God was omnipotent.
It is suggested a total experience is necessary to become enlightened. Knock on every door to find the way out. The law of averages does apply in the long run. You can't get lucky and beat the odds. There is no Cosmic lottery. Noting is free - sooner or later you must pay your dues.
Without getting into details that might be secret I was told that the Masters rigged things yesterday to make today what it is. A nice peaceful existence at this point in time was apparently not "what the doctor ordered". Even as I was lectured ( also in semi-secrecy ) nice nurturing societies don't produce as many ascended Masters as those that are more "rough and tumble".
Which probably segues back into the argument of reality. At any one place and point in time it is possible to pass judgement on rather it is good or bad. But ultimately it just exists. It is never static and what we judge today can be totally irrelevant tomorrow. I remember asked a Master about rock crystallization and how long it took a crystal to form and He just said "it is like the twinkling of an eye".
But then Humans only live about 70 or 80 Earth years on average and then die or forget everything so our concept of time is about the same ....
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Post by keter on Jan 12, 2018 23:52:55 GMT
Greetings to all
This is my first post and I look forward to getting acquainted with you all.
MY two penneth worth on this subject is that there are two ways to advance from the corporeal world to the Spiritual. The path of pain and suffering which pushes us from behind as individuals by personel hardships and pain, and collectively as society through natural disasters and epidemics etc. Then theres the path of light which is there infront of us. If we don't voluntary strive towards the light we will be pushed from behind with suffering I believe The only free will we have is wether we choose the carrot or the stick. Regards.
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Post by cliff on Jan 14, 2018 19:17:02 GMT
Greetings to all This is my first post and I look forward to getting acquainted with you all. MY two penneth worth on this subject is that there are two ways to advance from the corporeal world to the Spiritual. The path of pain and suffering which pushes us from behind as individuals by personel hardships and pain, and collectively as society through natural disasters and epidemics etc. Then theres the path of light which is there infront of us. If we don't voluntary strive towards the light we will be pushed from behind with suffering I believe The only free will we have is wether we choose the carrot or the stick. Regards. Welcome.to the God light forums
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sparklekaz
Someone asked me.. What is your religion? I said, "All the paths that lead to the light".
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Post by sparklekaz on Jan 14, 2018 20:44:24 GMT
Hi Keter, Welcome to the forum I loved your analogy, and the way you expressed your thoughts on personal and spiritual growth. I look forward to reading more of your posts and getting to know you better. Love and light Kaz
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