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Post by cmaa225 on Apr 10, 2016 17:17:35 GMT
SO I have been doing some meditations with some different crystals, sometimes having one longer than another, I keep getting different things popping up in my mind and in my body, does anybody else get these kind of things while meditating?
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Post by donq on Apr 10, 2016 18:23:45 GMT
Hi cmaa225,
It's normal. Just watch it. Don't judge it. It will come and go by itself. That's all.
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Post by donq on Apr 12, 2016 5:48:40 GMT
Hi again Cmaa225, Let me share you something I've understood and been practicing for more than 30 years. Most people "think" they can think their own thoughts. They don't know (and maybe never will) that their thoughts do not arise out of their will ("on the tip on the tongue" phenomenon is an example). I used to "think" that someone did me wrong and I got angry with them. I tried to do anything "to" them, not to me. I didn't know that it was not about them, and never would, but about my "thinking" about them that was really the problem. Then, I started meditating, to clarify my mind. Meditation normally is used as a basic procedure for trying to have no-thinking, no thought (or feeling etc.) by concentrate on something such as chanting, mantra, bead counting, breathing, body movement etc. (in your case, crystals), to get one-pointedness of mind, therefore a meditation. When any thought arises, one tries to shake them off and returns to his object of meditation again and again. Anyway, there's still anything kind of practice. When one starts to watch one’s mind, then it has something to do with watching one feeling&thinking (at the very beginning) and the means and the end of that practice are called mindfulness; attentiveness; detached watching; awareness etc. Mindfulness is not the meditative state in the real sense but one also gets loop meditation as a result, too. The difference between meditation and mindfulness practicing is that when any thought arises in one’s mind, what mindfulness does is just watching them, not shaking them off like meditation. It'd rather allow the thinking to occur (to observe them), not to block them for the sake of meditative state. Why? Because if one blocks them off he cannot observe them when they arise (or in the real life situation after he pauses his meditation to do something else). Again, one also needs the object of mindfulness (breathing etc.) because without it he will never known he is thinking (no mindfulness or thought observer) and will be took over by his own thinking, his thought. We still breath even we don't aware about it (otherwise we die). Mindfulness is to practice to aware on our breathing; to connect two systems (thinking and mindfulness) together. If you are thinking, then you forget about your mindfulness (breathing awareness) and vice versa. However, there's one important thing that we should keep in mind. Let me put it in this way: are you still angry at your anger? See my point? If you are watching your mind, and have seen that your are angry (with someone or at something), don't make the situation worse by adding more anger at your already anger. The one who is watching (your thought/mind) is always the same you who is thinking that very thought. The more you have something to do with it (either fight or fright), the more you anger remains. So, what you have to do is just watch it, not attach to it, and just let it goes. It will be gone away by itself. Like a cold breeze vanishing in the vast sky.P.S. This is not my preaching. And I never mean that. It's just that tomorrow will be the traditional New year day here, in my country and I'd like to share something to all of my friends here. So, Happy New year (again!)
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Post by aceofcups on Apr 12, 2016 17:49:17 GMT
thought i would I'd just throw this in here for Donq ( monty)
have a good one from all of us.
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Post by aceofcups on Apr 12, 2016 18:19:57 GMT
Greeting Cmaa... nothing wrong with what happening to you in your meditative reveries...happens to many people, when they try to just get quiet. or use certain aspects of mind as a receptive psychic tool.
Donq is explaining meditation and processes of the Mind wonderfully to me from a deeper spiritual/religious point of view. I have also been a long time meditator (45 or so years) and I think of the waking-conscious mind in similar ways an athlete uses their physical body... with focused attention, practice and discipline an athlete learns to hone their ways of using their physical body. Learning to use it in expert ways.
The Mind with Meditation and its different techniques -- with focused present mind attention, regular practice and discipline -- the mind can get focused, can reach deeper levels of consciousness and eventually become One with the Quiet all embracing mind-consciousness.
All of which can open us up to higher awareness even with your meditations on the crystals, etc.
Just my two cents on subject.
Peace ace
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