Suicide

[subsidinginsanity]

Unfortunately suicide is chosen all too frequently. The rates are going up. So much so that chances are you probably know at least one person who has either attempted it or actually done it. According to suicide statistics given by WHO suicides account for more deaths per year than are attributed to all the deaths caused by wars and murder in the world. In some places such as Japan it has even become trendy.

I've heard it said that suicide doesn't solve problems. I've also heard it said that we should have the right to die. If we are creators then are we not allowed to create our own realities? What happens when one commits suicide? Is there Divine retribution? Is there relief? Do we escape our physical reality? Do we need to reincarnate and do it all over again? Does it depend on the circumstances?

[gruntal]

Suicide, like juvenile delinquency and gangs, may be an indication of how well a civilization works. You can control by punishment but some things are so close it is like lopping off your arm or leg. When the battle lines are drawn and the enemy is facing you in the mirror it is not surprising where the casualties are.

I feel this actually takes many forms and not surprisingly I tend to think it isn't going to go away not matter what you do. It was suggested (by someone un-named I didn't like at all) that suicide was a "taking your gift of life and flinging it back into G*d's face". At some level (I am not qualified to know exactly which) that attitude might indeed be an embarrassment but mostly because of the Cosmos. But I stubbornly think the universe isn't inherently defective; it is the things or the system we created.

Now for the closing number I will play The Overture of 10538 by the Electric Light Orchestra. Did you see him run did you see him fall...ahhhh..ahhhh...does his life mean more then it did before.... did you catch his face ...was it 10538 ?! ....ahhhh!!

P.S. you can take your tranquilizers and jam them up your $##@! I have known so many sick people that needed some medical help for ailments or an ounce of compassion for their physical hurts and that was the very thing that was often denied.

[subsidinginsanity]

Suicides outpace car crashes as leading cause of deaths from injuries

thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/27/suicides-outpace-car-crashes-as-leading-cause-of-deaths-from-injuries/

The world is hurting. People are crying for help and oftentimes the children suffer most. As I reflect on what can actually be done I realize that if it were not for the "competition" idea there would be no wars or divisions and social problems would be a thing of the past. I believe that Spirit is with all of us all the time, but at times it really dosen't seem like it. Why does God conceal himself so when his children are in such need of guidance?

There are times when I feel like becoming a social worker and devoting my life to helping people. There are times when I feel as though I could be doing more, and then I reflect on how I've behaved towards others. Usually that comes with some guilt. I wish I knew how to do more. It's such times that it does me good to remember ACIM and that the world is nothing more than our dream.

[Smeets]

I have a birthday book that gives you a personality profile for every day. It's pretty bang on. It's called the secret language of birthdays by gary goldschneider and joost elffers. Anyway, their are personalities in the book that are prone to suicide (july 21st - ernest hemingway, hart crane, etc), witch conjures up atleast one question. Is suicide a personal characteristic?

You should try helping people. You are good at it. Also this forum is helping me out a lot. I'm glad I found it.

[brummyben]

Slightly off topic, but when asked if he had any regrets in life, the dalai lama went onto talk about an older monk who he knew well and despite this older monk most probably being further down the spiritual path than the dalai lama, the older monk saught the dalai lama's advice on what he should do regarding a certain physical practice that he was unable to do now as his body was too old. The dalai lama's response was that he should not attempt to do this as his body was too feeble and it was for younger students. Unfortunately the older monk saw this as a necessary progression towards enlightenment and killed himself, in the belief that one day he would be reborn and be young enough to do this physical practice.

[Ishtahota]

Some people do enough personal work or live long enough to remember some of their past life stuff. My parents both were remembering who they had been in other lives before this life ended. I think if your life is over and you know it and you are in a lot of pain that you should be allowed to go on with dignity and relitives around. My father and my mother both have been back many times to visit sense their deaths. My dad said the hardest part was getting to that moment, but other then that it was like walking threw a door. One moment you are here and the next you are their.

My father went into the light right away and it took a month for him to come back for a visit. My mother was really tied to the house and all that they had built and owned, she is probable still staying at the old home place.

What I know about life is that pain and suffering is a choice that we make, it is simple resistance to our own personal truth. If I am having a hard time and I am in drama with others around me and I can see the drama and conflict for what it really is, I get a really big payoff and a big rush of spiritual energy.

What I have been told by others from the other side is that if we are in lesson and we choose to commit suicide instead of working threw the pain and suffering to see what it is really all about, we are sent back untill we get it right. We all have crap that we carry with us and makes life hard to handle, but not everyone has somebody to show them what to do with it all so that their life can have some real meaning and purpose.

[Ruby]

Hi subsidinginsanity... the world we live in is full of fear and pressure. The rise in suicide rates reflect this I feel. Instead of wondering why this is happening, maybe we should be looking at ways in which we can be more loving to each other and be ashamed of helping to create a world where people seek comfort in death rather then each other.

Blessings
Ruby

[bev]

Such a big question...all I can say is I think that each persons suffering affects them in different ways.

If the balance of their mind is disturbed and lets face it you would have to be pretty desperate to take your own life then no, I don't think there will be any form of retribution, after all if I chose to believe in a God of Love, then how could a person with an unstable mind be judged harshly ?