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Post by donq on Jan 29, 2015 3:50:05 GMT
The first night I lived in the forest (temple), I could not sleep at all. Every sound in the dark startled me. Might it be the rattle of leaves or dropping of rotten tree’s branch, might it be some dangerous wild animals, those didn’t bother me as much as something else. Though I honestly didn’t believe in ghost (pan etc.) but why those sound gave me goose bumps? I asked myself, why on earth I didn’t feel like this in the day light? And trying to regain my calmness by asking myself again and again what the night was? Though where I was staying was a night but it was a day on the other side of the world. Night and day was not real, wasn't it. Why did I have to feel uncomfortable in the night, then? What surprised me was after a few days passed (and I still survived :-) those sound became less and less scary. And after some days, I became to love those sounds. I literally could hear the sound of silence there! Our mind really work in the mysterious way, does it not?
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Post by mojomojo on Jan 29, 2015 10:38:38 GMT
Hi Donq,
I remember when I moved to London first, there was a police station at the bottom of the street, a fire station nearby, a pub and two night clubs around the corner, a taxi rank across the street, which only operated at night, and behind the taxi rank a park, where all the drunks used to go after the club to fight, every weekend it was the same. It was like in the American cop programmes on t.v., sirens 24/7, traffic all day, night time, shouting and fighting, I could never sleep, thought if I stay here, I will go mad. Now, when I go home, in the countryside, nice and quiet, no noise, I can not sleep, silence is deafening.
As a young boy, I was always afraid of the dark, I could always sense energies all around me, I think at night time when everything is quiet, these energies become more apparent, except in London, when it's never quiet.
Yes, the mind works in mysterious ways, very flexible, we can get used to anything, not sure if this is a good thing, would not like to be able to get used to prison. LOL.
This also reminds me of a time when I was meditating, I think I was been shown myself in past life's, Many photo's flashed in my mind, some of groups of people, but one would stick out. There were photo's of many stages in history, even cowboys in America. But what caught me unaware, was the number of times, I had been a woman, and it's a very strange feeling, the mind does not know what to do with this information, it's like a rabbit caught in the headlights, the mind just stops for a moment, it doesn't know where to file this information. The macho ego mind thinks, what, I was a woman, then the spiritual mind thinks, of course you fool, did you think you lived many lives and all were as a man, But it's the strangest feeling, when the mind gets this information first. LOL.
Yes indeed, Donq, the mind works in very mysterious ways.
Robert.
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Post by sparklekaz on Jan 29, 2015 11:15:11 GMT
Dear Monty, I've always been afraid of the dark, and even now as an adult I need to have a low light on or to have the curtains slightly open so that the street lights can lift that solid blackness. At one time, I could not sleep if my back was turned to a door. I would have to sleep with my back against a wall. So that nothing could come up behind me. I had to smile when you shared your mental self talk about the dark. I've done that myself many times. I also agree with Robert, that at night when it is quiet and dark, we have less distractions. And those who are sensitive to energy, feel them most strongly at this time. It seems so illogical doesn't it, that we can be in a familiar place which never makes us feel uneasy in the daytime, but at night, it is as if it is another place, another world. Logically we can rationalize it. It's because we cannot see what is going on around us. Maybe something or someone will creep up upon us without warning. It is the fear of the unknown. But when night-time comes instinct seems to take over and all those calming rationalizations don't count for anything. I can understand you being nervous in the forest though, especially the very first time. And at night, every noise is amplified. Sounds that are unfamiliar can be very unsettling. Indeed even familiar noises can seem strange and loud at night. But as you said, the more you became used to the night time noises, the more relaxed you became about them. They can came to feel very soothing and comforting. I think the feelings of unease that we feel when we are in situations where we don't feel in control. Are to do with our survival mechanisms. Strange sounds, poor light, to ancient man would have put him/her on their guard. Knowing your environment well could be the difference between life or death. For all our modern sophistication, we are still very instinctual creatures. Anything that seems different, will but us on alert. A long time ago I lived in the countryside. You become used to the natural sounds of nature, they become reassuringly familiar. You think you take them for granted. But if something changes, it triggers feelings of unease. The cottages where I lived were always full of bird song. And I would see the birds sweeping overhead in their little flocks, dancing and swooping in their aerobatic dance. In and out of the buildings they would fly. One year, I suddenly realized one day that the birds that used to sweep above in great numbers were strangely silent and absent. At first I just felt mildly puzzled. But as time went by I really began to feel very uncomfortable about it. I almost had a supersitious feeling of unease. And felt very strongly that it signaled some kind of negative change in the environment. I found out some time later that the population had been seriously depleted due to some kind of virus and a very cold winter. I'm no naturalist, but instinctively knew something was wrong. I also still worry about the fall in population of the bees. People who work in nature will warn us about the bee population disappearing. Many would not give that another thought. Oh so there are less bees, what is the big deal. Not realizing just how important bees are to pollination, the propogation of crops that feed us. I think people forget that man in the past had a very symbiotic relationship with nature. They learned to read the signs that would tell them about the weather and the affect it would have on their safety and their crops. Using this knowledge to protect themselves and their food sources. To preserve and stock up for lean times. Or to take advantage of the coming good conditions to ensure a bumper harvest. I've probably gone off on a tangent again, but the point I am trying to make rather long windedly is, that this hypersensitivity we have to our surroundings, is part of an ability we have that is inherent. Which can be at times very unsettling, but does I believe have a very important purpose. Love and light Kaz
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Post by donq on Jan 29, 2015 11:44:51 GMT
Dear Karen,
Robert said,
"there was a police station at the bottom of the street, a fire station nearby, a pub and two night clubs around the corner, a taxi rank across the street, which only operated at night, and behind the taxi rank a park, where all the drunks used to go after the club to fight, every weekend it was the same."
And you said,
"A long time ago I lived in the countryside. You become used to the natural sounds of nature, they become reassuringly familiar. You think you take them for granted. But if something changes, it triggers feelings of unease. The cottages where I lived were always full of bird song. And I would see the birds sweeping overhead in their little flocks, dancing and swooping in their aerobatic dance. In and out of the buildings they would fly. One year, I suddenly realized one day that the birds that used to sweep above in great numbers were strangely silent and absent."
Wow! both of you wrote poems? :-)
I have a question for you, Karen. I read somewhere that specific place is necessary for tuning one's energy. As a Reiki healer, is that true? And if it is, what kind of place that suits you the most?
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sparklekaz
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Post by sparklekaz on Jan 29, 2015 11:59:21 GMT
Hi Monty, Can you explain a little more what you meant when you asked "is a specific place necessary for tuning ones energy"?
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Post by donq on Jan 29, 2015 12:53:21 GMT
Hahaha! You’ve got me. :-)
Ok, ok, ok. I used to read some books about pranic energy, energy healing. They said that they needed some special place which there were lots of trees etc. Those kind of places would be good to charge their energies (from trees, flesh air etc.). Normally we need that kind of place anyway, for example, back to the nature (sea, beach etc.) on our holiday's trip. So I don’t know what the difference. Can you (re) charge your energy without those kind of places? Only meditation is not enough?
Anyway, let’s call those places above positive place whether you are into energy charging or not. But I also read about some negative energy place which we have to be avoid. Not necessary the noisy places but the place that could drain our energy so fast without any reason. And Each one will have this individual negative place differently that should be avoided. So those were I read. :-)
Hmm….but I have to admit that, there’s really some place that really drains my energy more than usual. I still don’t know why. And I don’t believe much about kind of the negative place like that (except the place that crowded, loud noises etc.)
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Post by sparklekaz on Jan 29, 2015 13:42:19 GMT
I understand now what you mean Monty. As you've pointed out, there are places that will naturally refresh and rejuvenate, everyone. Basically anywhere in nature. Particularly forests, anywhere near running water, and by the sea. Tree's are our oxygenators, and anywhere there is a high density of woodland is not going to be as densely populated or polluted as the city. Being in nature has been proven to lower blood pressure.
Research has shown that the sound of waves alters wave patterns in the brain lulling you into a deeply relaxed state. Also, floating in water means blood is diverted around from our lower limbs and pumped towards our abdominal region - the part of the body near the heart - because we are no longer standing upright. Fresh blood being pumped around the body brings more oxygen to our brain which makes us more alert and active. And if you've ever wondered why we always sleep more soundly after spending the day on the beach, it's because of the sea air. Sea air is charged with healthy negative ions that accelerate our ability to absorb oxygen. Negative ions also balance levels of seratonin, a body chemical linked with mood and stress.
Bearing these factors in mind, it makes sense that people will feel more intune with their surroundings and to energy vibration; because they are themselves energetically 'firing on all cylinders'. I believe even those people who would not regard themselves as being particularly sensitive, will notice a heightening of awareness. You may have noticed that I often speak of the symbiotic relationship I believe we have with the earth. So for me personally, I see this getting back to nature, taking time out. As plugging ourselves back into the mother source. Before I forget also, sitting out in the sunlight is also very powerful. Not just because it increases vitamin D and raises the 'feel good' serotonin levels in the blood, but because I find it is a very powerful energiser and cleanser of the aura.
I like you are affected by overcrowded, noisy places. I always feel smothered and 'off balance'. And yes, there are other places that can produce this effect in me; places that you would not think on the surface, would do this. There are a couple of reasons for this. 1. I believe is because of 'ley lines'. Ley lines are invisible energies which can run above or below ground, and can be positive, negative or neutral. They are sometimes called 'black streams' or 'track lines'. They are believed to be magnetic in nature and cross all over the Earth. Significantly, most ancient monuments and churches are built either on a leyline or where two or more cross.
The second reason could be that negative energy has become trapped with the vibration of a place or building. A place where some kind of emotional/psychic trauma has taken place. Anyone who is sensitive to energy can become effected by this energy. Because they either absorb the emotion/feelings that are held there, or the trauma has left a void, a kind of negative black hole, that drains the life force. Many feel this. Someone who is aware of energy and understand what is happening, will simply move away from it. And consciously disperse it. I'd be interested to hear where your experiences of this Monty, and everyone else's.
Love and light Kaz
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Post by Ishtahota on Jan 29, 2015 14:24:18 GMT
Sleep in the woods or sleep on a city street or even in a house close to the city. Humm! Lets see. I know what critters are going to do, it is people that are the wild card to me. People always do the unexpected. Where do I feel the safest?
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Post by tribunalofmercy on Jan 29, 2015 16:36:13 GMT
Monty, you said, "The first night...I could not sleep at all. Every sound...startled me. Trying to regain my calmness by asking myself again and again what the night was? Though where I was staying was a night but it was a day on the other side of the world. Night and day was not real, wasn't it. Why did I have to feel uncomfortable in the night, then?" I wonder if this is not the way of the mosquito? Perhaps mosquito finds person and becomes uncomfortable; perhaps the biting is the way of getting Used to the new thing/person. I wonder if, in our attempts to protect ourselves from the mosquito, we interrupt a Cycle that must be completed (person/mosquito) in order to stop happening? If we allow mosquito to bite us a bit, would the mosquito get used to us and stop biting? Perhaps not But the mosquito is another creature yet....not a Person, with potential for awareness to Finish the cycle, change our thinking and move On...like when you got used to the sounds of the forest because soon you Understood them better? To still ourselves, to remain calm and patient in the face of the unknown, is not something for the mosquito. To trust ourselves....to know that what we do not know, we Will soon know...perhaps this is spiritual evolution?
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Post by tribunalofmercy on Jan 29, 2015 20:39:26 GMT
Karen - It seems you have encouraged more questions in me than anything else, by your thoughts above - what is it that makes some people "night people" and some people "day people"? For I am hearing this in other places - some love the night, some love the day. Charlie, I'm sure, could share how this is affected by our astrological alignment from birth, and I would agree, but is it Only that? I see those who respond as you may (including me), feeling a perceived "negative energy" somewhere and feeling the need to move away, or dispel it; this same energy is alluring to others though, and perhaps it is not because they are evil or anything...you know? I see people who respond now to symbols, but not the Same symbols. And then I wonder about why some feel positively aligned to the angles, while others feel more positively affected by curves....then I wonder about nature itself, not only the Earth but all in it, and I wonder what makes the bird in the tree outside sing eight chirps, then four, then seven, then five, then six? (for example) It must be more than coincidence? I wonder about how certain energies shrink from me automatically; I wonder about transmuting energy, like we do with positive/negative emotions, and how we learn to encourage nature in other positive ways? (besides the usual) Goodness; I am Not going to get much sleep at night this way But thank you for helping me Think. It's so strange now, Karen - like seeing so Many things happening, but it feels like I am a second or two behind in my understanding...everything is trying to line up, but I'm not There yet. You know?
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Post by donq on Jan 30, 2015 1:59:58 GMT
Hi Karen, I consider myself a serious bookworm but your explanation is a great explanation (and easy to understand) I ever hear. Thank so much. About my negative place? Hmm...you might laugh. There was a time that I almost believed in superstition. When I went to some certain place I always got a jinx (something bad always happened there or after that). hahaha.
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Post by donq on Jan 30, 2015 2:01:48 GMT
Hi Ishtahota,
Critters? Those monster? Yes, very agree. Statistically speaking, it was people that harm/killed people more than any monsters. I used to spend three days and night at the cemetery on the little island, hoping to see some ghost. I was not that brave but just so curious. Besides, that time I still was a monk. So, at least, any ghost should be afraid of me. hahaha.
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Post by donq on Jan 30, 2015 2:02:26 GMT
Hi Mary Anne, Sorry for my late reply. A bit busy last night. The way of the mosquito? Hmm...I read somewhere that a mosquito finds us because of our heat (temperature). But I understand your point about the cycle interrupting. Yes, maybe. But it sounds like the old believe about Karma. This mosquito bit me because I used to do something wrong to it in my past life, or I used to be a mosquito that bit someone. As far as I know (after long time of studying and practicing) I think Karma has much more complicated meaning than that. In our case, it reminds me of some very good persons who think like that. He/she allows any person to bad thing to them because they believe that fight back is wrong. Maybe it's true. But that way, they are spoiling others to do more and more bad things? But yes, I agree about the cycle that must be completed in one way or another. Something like "letting go" everything to complete everything. Yes, it sounds like philosophical concept but it's very practical.
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Post by sparklekaz on Jan 30, 2015 14:04:06 GMT
Hi Mary Anne, I am the same, more often then not one question raises another. But that is a good thing I think. Why are some people night owls and other's early birds? Good question. Some of it is down to their lifestyle I think. If someone has to be up early for work, they can't stay up late. Having said that though, I have met a few who seem to be able to survive on very little sleep and regardless of how late they are up, can still be awake for 7am that morning. I am not one of those people, I need my beauty sleep. I must have at least 7 hours, if not I am like a zombie the next day and can be a little prickly, till I've had at least 2 coffee's. Some wake up with the dawn chorus, full of energy. But if they had been up late, would this still be so? So let's say this is their choice. But also dictated to some degree by lifestyle. Maybe it is also to do with our bio rhythms. You say is 'negative energy' simply dependent on how the individual reacts to said energy. Are you saying that in a sense the energy is 'neutral'. That something in us reacts to it positively or negatively? Interesting question. I've thought about this since reading your question. My first response was, in the case of ley lines; If they are negative, as in being draining or debilitating. The effect would be universal. As in, it would effect everyone the same way. In the case of places, buildings etc where the energy is of a emotional/psychic nature. Then yes, it might effect people differently. Do we only respond to energy that touches something in us. i.e. if the site holds sadness, pain and loss. Would we only 'feel it' if we had experienced it ourselves. So in this instance, if someone had not known loss or pain, they might simply walk through it untouched. Symbols and how they effect us, I also liken to syncronistic signs, portents and omens. In as much as, our response to them is connected to our own unconsious presentience, if that makes sense. Let me try to explain. You have a decision to make. Consciously you are undecided. You say to yourself, I need a sign that will tell me what to do. Yes or no. You see a sign, a flock of birds flying high. Aah you say to yourself, birds flying high has always had positive association for me. I believe that is telling me yes. You may see something that has always had negative associations for you. And you take that as a sign saying No. What I believe is that on an unconscious level we have made our decision, but it takes an 'external' trigger to bring it into our conscious awareness. I am a great believer in Universal consciousness. That we have the ability to tap into it. That unconsciously we are 'always' connected to it. Some might say we can only connect to it, through conscious intention, say through meditation or some other spiritual practice. But if we are always connected, then certain things will trigger it off, activate a instinctual response in us. I believe that the trigger can be signs, symbols, books, even words by other people. That a resonance is created between ourselves and the trigger. A frequency that attracts or repels. Hence why some people perceive something as being positive and other's negative. These are just my thoughts on it. I would be very interested to hear what other's think. Love and light Kaz
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