Life plan numbers and work.

[mojomojo]

One of the first books I ever read on spirituality was " out of your mind, the only place to be" it was a long time ago that I read it, but one topic always stuck in my head, it dealt with the fact that the vast majority of people lived the treadmill existence, working jobs they didn't particularly like, just to make money to live week to week, and that caught in this cycle would make any real spiritual progress very difficult, and advised, if at all possible to get out of this cycle and find something you love to do.

Seems we have an awful lot stacked against us on our spiritual path, past life karma, our thoughts, our actions, maybe our jobs, at times it feels like a bird trying to fly with one wing, putting in the extra effort to stay airborne, but just going around in circle's, or is it because the spiritual path never runs straight, instead, spirals up, so when we get the impression were not moving, really it's the same view from a higher perspective, second time around.

Then, of course is the influence of what we choose before we come in, our life plan number, do we get to try each one in turn on our quest for oneness. I've been dealt seven this time round, loner, seeker of truth, psychic capabilities, scholar of the occult, a natural healer.
How many of you do work in accordance with your life plan number, or is the majority, square pegs in round holes.


So, what's your life plan number,
and what do you do?

[rain]

Hi,

Actually, I had no idea what my life plan number was, until now. Apparently I'm a number one. I can honestly tell you that I have no idea if I'm working on my life plan according to numerology (or perhaps the reports I get are too simplistic), but I can tell you I tend to play it by ear, trusting what my intuition tells me and doing what makes me happy. Surely that leads me to ways many people don't understand, but I don't care a lot about it.

[sparklekaz]

Hi Robert,

My life plan number is 3, and I can see from the description given it is pretty accurate.

I understand what you mean about the 'treadmill existence' making it difficult to be able to devote time to spiritual progress. Family and work committments can make it hard to find the time for ourselves, to explore and learn. But, don't you think a lot of say our personal growth work is done through our personal relationships and interactions with others, be it through family, work or on a social level?

Finding enough quiet time to devote to meditation and personal clearing work is probably the hardest thing. I've always been a book worm, and even as a child, I'd find a quiet corner, usually behind the settee, if I wanted to escape.lol My mum thought so much reading was unhealthy. So as an adult, I made time for reading, though with a young family to raise it wasn't always easy.

I wholeheartedly agree that if we can do something we love, rather than just working to earn a crust, it is much more fulfilling, and for many that isn't always possible. But there is no reason why we can't combine the two. I did part time paid work and part time voluntary work. As well as working with mental health groups. Giving Reiki and teaching them about self healing and meditation. As the saying goes. 'Where there is a will, there is a way'

When I first started exploring my spiritual path, I would often get frustrated at the lack of time to explore and practice anything spiritual. I would go on work shops when I could. And joined various 'groups'. But would complain I was so busy and too tired. I felt handicapped by it. But I came to realize, that rarely do people get the chance to escape up a mountain or live in retreat and devote their time completely to spiritual pursuits. Unless you join a nunnery of course.

So I got to thinking about life on earth, on the physical plane. If we were not mean't to experience 'the treadmill'. Or the demands that a normal life makes of us, then why are we here? Why didn't we stay in spirit? I don't think we are mean't to escape from the pressures of life, but we are mean't to learn to deal with them. As many have said before, I think it's about finding balance and combining the two. Too much one way, living a rarified esoteric spiritual life in seclusion, while does allow people to develop their mental strength and focus. It does not help us in dealing with ego issues, such as anger, fear, impatience, selfishness, self destruction and self obsession. Whereas having to work and live with others, under pressure does.

I was told by an old teacher years before that everything we do, is a vital part of our spiritual growth. I just couldn't see it. I thought I was 'being humoured'. But now I see it is true. Perhaps it is something that can only be realized as we age, and in retrospect. I stopped worrying about where I was and what I was doing and I stopped feeling that in some way I was missing out. I believe that I am, I was, exactly where I was mean't to be.

Love and light
Kaz

[mojomojo]

Hi all, very sorry, I asked the question and didn't say what I did for a living, it's none of the things that my life plan number suggests, best part of my life was spent driving trucks, I hated it, but as you have already stated, sometimes you just have to go for what's available, due to repeated back injury, I had to change, now in the middle of retraining as a clock/watch maker.
I think Rain, your attitude is spot on, go with your intuition and what makes you happy, can only lead you to the right place.
Kaz, I understand where you are coming from, but I don't think we were put down here to suffer, staying in an envoirment that makes you unhappy can only bring you down physically and spiritually, in such a situation, the only thing to learn is to get out of it, why would you stay in a relationship that made you unhappy, the only thing to learn is to not attract such.
To escape the pressures of life to me is impossible, we all have the same needs, food, shelter, clothes, doesn't matter where you live.
Are your thoughts of people who live a secluded life, hermits, holy men, that they are running away from the pressures of life, that they are impatient, selfish, self destructive and self obsessive, surely not.

Robert.

[sparklekaz]

Hi Robert,

No I don't think we are put on the earth to suffer at all. I was simply trying to say, that saying one way is better than another is not that straight forward. I would never suggest anyone stay in a situation that is making them unhappy. The meaning of being on the treadmill to me, is more about the mundane and repetitive, than being in a unhappy, abusive relationship, or situation. Whether you are a spiritually minded person or not the natural inclination would be to get away from that. So to be clear, I was not suggesting that at all.

I know it's not easy either to find something that you love that also pays. I know, I've done both. Many are stuck in jobs that are mundane and boring. But as you say, they don't have much choice and bills need to be paid. I was simply suggesting that there are ways around that. My purpose in saying what I said, was to illustrate that every situation has a lesson for us within it, or can teach us something valuable. I know what it's like to be under pressure. I've known physical and financial hardship. I've raised three children, one who had serious health problems from a very young age, as well as having to look after my mum for three years until she passed. I'm no different from millions of other people. But within those difficulties, hard though they were, I believe I learnt a lot. About myself, about how to be selfless and patient. Not that it was always easy, because it wasn't.

I don't think only those who live in seclusion are running away or that they are impatient, selfish and self destructive. I must re read what I wrote to see where you got idea from. I was trying to say that in being 'in the world' has things to teach us and what those things might be. But, I'm sorry you seem to have taken what I've said out of context. I might add though, that you should talk to people who have lived in closed communities, and in seclusion. Speak to Ace and to Donq. They both of experience of these things. Not all who live like that are saints, and some are running away or hiding from something.

love and light
Kaz

[rain]

Hi beautiful people,

I believe that our state of mind dictates a lot what we live. There was a time when I was very insecure, with the lowest self esteem, afraid of the world, feeling nothing but pressure, pain, struggle and consequentially, discouragement.
I started reading "You Can Heal Your Life" by Louise L. Hay, and it change my life dramatically.
I changed my whole vocabulary: instead of saying "problem" I would say "challenge", "adventure". I would look in the mirror and say: "I love you a lot, even if you dont see it." Anytime I was anxious, I imagined my higher self seeing me and saying: "Why is she so nervous? Can't she see everything will turn out fine?" That really helped me feel better. I also developed my own technique, the "pat in the back". Everytime I did something that made me feel good, or that was well done, or that helped someone I used to (still do sometimes) pat myself in the back and say "Good for you".
I can no longer related to who I was anymore, and I know that I can never go back. But I love my older self with all my heart, because I know she is the reason I am here in this place in my life, feeling extremely happy and loving.
My phisical circumstances haven't changed a lot, life went on and evolved, but I'm not a millionaire (yet, not excluding that, heheeh)and still I feel like a million bucks worth.
In a nutshell, it takes to feel grateful and enjoy the little things. God doesnt want us to suffer, or struggle, or to feel pressure. That is all our doing, and nobody else. Even when the struggle seems to come from the outside. Its always OUR reaction, OUR feeling.

I dont think hermits or holy men (I really dont like this term) are holier than the rest of us just because they decided to live a secluded life. As I dont think that they are less holy than us either. Although I have to say, finding God in meditation is easy. Finding God in our daily lives is a whole different game. But, in my absolutely personal opinion, the gains are way higher.

[gruntal]

It seems every time I applied for job I had the impossible task of explaining why I wanted that line of work in the first place. So my qualifications were moot. "We will hold your application until a more suitable opening comes along". Maybe not surprisingly the advice I was given as to what to do in my spare time rarely if ever was of much interest to me. It got to a point where a lot of my potential business dealing had a bait thrown in for a free Cadillac.

I fooled them all and bought a little Scion xB and let my pooch shed all over the back seat! And an old truck besides so I could rumble down the highway.

My life has been very awkward and non-productive. Much like this post. It seems I was born to forsake the obvious and cast my lot where I did not belong. I must have spent a lot of time making this mold and it can't be broken over night. If that seems surprising think how much more it will be to me if I can do it.

Is there a life number for that ?!

[tribunalofmercy]

My life plan number is 11 Which is Great, but I take it with a grain of salt because if I look at my Birth name number, or my soul number, I suppose I am someone who needs to be financially successful, that I can finish what I start and that I am Permanently motivated to worldly success. LOL

Sometimes I think it's not about that at All, but about where we are going in General. Are we growing? How many things and people interact with us every day - and how much do we All grow as a result of being in those interactions?

Liam Neesan in Star Wars, and his "Your focus determines your reality." haha I agree that so often we end up in jobs, or even lives, that are ill-suited to our Ideal traits - that it is Great when we can get where our abilities are Directly being used for our good, and that of others - but what about all the time we have in each and every Moment of our lives?

It's God's lovely nagging, I guess, and that of my guides; every time I pass a house on my walk I am now urged to Pray for those who live there, or send positive thoughts, or healing energy. The trees, forests and all parts of the Earth that I pass need my Intent; cars I pass on the highway are likely in Need, as well, and I am learning to include them.

And do they not meet my needs as well? Trees are Completely unselfish in their calming and soothing responses to me as I touch them; I know there are homes I pass and I think, Surely these people are praying for the needs and growth of others, just as I do. Meeting people everywhere, every step I take, I find they unconsciously meet my Own needs for growth in awareness, even as I reach out to Them.

A long time ago I worked with those who were bedridden, unable to see well, hear well...basically unable to do much at All for themselves or others....until I met Evelyn. She was the first to teach me that her days, no matter how limited "others" saw them, were FIlled with purpose because she spent Every waking moment in prayer and intercession for Everyone, and she felt God would not 'take her home' until she had truly met Every moment of her time here in Action, no matter how inactive it seemed.

I may not remember half of the things I learned in school; I may forget so Many details of my past, but People, I never forget. Because they - and you - teach me something, something to cause me to Grow. To Remember.

My life number may describe me to some degree, but my Life had better describe me in greater detail, because it's what I Do with my life that matters. Not just in 'action' but through Intent, that I may come to the end of This life having done Everything I could to vibrate as God would.

Teach me today.

[aceofcups]

wow a post on numerology..

I have first studied, then used the insights from numerology and astrology for myself and to share with others who were interested since I first got into the subjects around 1970. Yes, I consider them both as blueprints and tools to use and work with. Not to limited one but more as a way of getting understanding what energies one is working with. It can help us to learn the process of vibrational energy cycles within us. Not all books written about numbers are the same either,, some are very mundane oriented, others connect with the deeper meanings of numbers. As with many things it is a reflection of the author and their interests also.

The Life Path (life plan) vibration is an interesting one to look at in light of the other numbers we have in our complete number chart. Also looking at your life plan number in combination with one’s astrology signs in one's astrology chart, can give greater insight. It makes us realize the our life is not just by random chance, Or randomedly metered out by some God figure but we have a chosen karmic blueprint to some of our interests and ways of being. Physically, emotionally, mentally and even spiritually.

Sometimes our Life path number can be correlated to what things we do in life ( job, activities etc) other times in can be more a general way the vibrational tone HOW we do things. Some people do the exact opposite of their life path number vibration ( which is still connected in larger sense...but the ego fights against it).

I personally have a three life path and was born on the 11th and yes spiritual creativity of all sorts has been one of my main activities in this life. Knowing my numbers many years ago and working with number cycles I have actually used my numerology understanding to make it more so. Certain cycles are geared more towards, relationships, some artistic, others about work etc. Again it is a tool,,, but to create or fix things certain tools are very useful,,, but using no tool or the wrong tool and at wrong time can make things so less productive.
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I use numerology cycles and vibrations all the time since I first learned it many years ago. Knowing and feeling my yearly and month cycles .. I can feel the energy change at the start of each month and try to use it the best way I can.

To me it doesn't work against Unity-Oneness,, but knowing my individual cycles actually enhances its effectiveness of both in my life. WE each have our own proficient pathway back to Oneness.

I posted on the forum two years ago a small chart for people to find out what their yearly cycle they are under if they were interested, certain year numbers enhance our life plan number while others can make it a bit slower in periods.
Let me see if I can post a link from one post to another here, in case anyone is interested...i recently updated the original post to 2015.

spiritualforum.me.uk/thread/4306/numerology-number-2015

peace
aceofcups

[tribunalofmercy]

I followed Ace's link to his post from earlier and read it carefully, because this is both interesting and informative I see changes in my perspective, my 'focus', from year to year and as I am not as familiar with astrology and numerology it is something to Consider.

This caused me to take a closer look at my birth name number, lol, because though a superficial read would seem not to match me, I begin to see correlations that might apply to me after all

Thank you for sharing -

[mojomojo]

Hi all, thank you very much for your replies, I asked the question to see if there was any, actually working in the area that their life plan number suggested or if the majority ended up doing what was available at the time, as I have done myself for the best part of my life, just to see how many had broken the norm.
Kaz you seem to have been slightly offended, maybe I'm wrong, I assure you none was intended, not even sure how it got to be about , the secluded life versus living in the heart of it.
I do recognise that most people have to play the cards they have been dealt, and that people can grow and learn from that, and that people are people, good and bad, whether they live in the heart of life or not.

Robert.

[sparklekaz]

Hi Robert.. lol well you didn't offend me, just slightly ruffled my feathers But that is my problem not yours my friend. I know how easily what we intend to convey with what we write, can at times come out sounding different to what we intended. I do try to be clear, but you know how it is when your 'in the moment' writing, the meaning, can, if not carefully worded, easily be taken in a different way.. I can see that. So we (meaning you and me, not the 'royal we' are good.

Love and light
Kaz

[mojomojo]

Hi Kaz,
Delighted to hear that,

GOD bless,

Robert.